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From: "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: smart people doing stupid things
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 00:46:06 -0400
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"Don Y" <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in message 
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> On 5/17/2024 7:11 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
>> "Don Y" <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:v28rap$2e811$3@dont-email.me...
>>> On 5/17/2024 1:43 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
>>>> Not sure how he managed to say master debaters that many times while
>>>> seemingly keeping a straight face but it reminds me of this:
>>>> https://www.learningmethods.com/downloads/pdf/james.alcock--the.belief.engine.pdf
>>>>
>>>> One thing which bothers me about AI is that if it's like us but way 
>>>> more
>>>> intelligent than us then...
>>>
>>> The 'I' in AI doesn't refer to the same sense of "intelligence" that
>>> you are imagining.
>>
>> Strange that you could know what I was imagining.
>
> People are invariably mislead by thinking that there is "intelligence"
> involved in the technology.  If there is intelligence, then there should
> be *reason*, right?  If there is reason, then I should be able to inquire
> as to what, specifically, those reasons were for any "decision"/choice
> that is made.

You haven't met some of the managers I've worked for.

>
....
>
> Where it will be in 10 years is impossible to predict.

I agree.

> But, as the genie is
> out of the bottle, there is nothing to stop others from using/abusing it
> in ways that we might not consider palatable!  (Do you really think an
> adversary will follow YOUR rules for its use -- if they see a way to
> achieve gains?)
>
> The risk from AI is that it makes decisions without being able to 
> articulate
> a "reason" in a verifiable form.

I know/have known plenty of people who can do that.

>And, then marches on -- without our
> ever "blessing" it's conclusion(s).  There is no understanding; no 
> REASONING;
> it's all just pattern observation/matching.
....