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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 11:27:39 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <v2aktr$2s4fs$2@dont-email.me> References: <v18e32$1vbql$1@dont-email.me> <v1avuv$2lks2$1@dont-email.me> <v1b7gl$2ndka$1@dont-email.me> <v1cla9$34iis$1@dont-email.me> <v1d2mi$9f72$11@i2pn2.org> <v1di1h$3b2m5$1@dont-email.me> <v1dtdv$3dqg4$1@dont-email.me> <v1du2i$3dt7u$1@dont-email.me> <v1fetd$3s7jo$1@dont-email.me> <v1ft42$3vdau$2@dont-email.me> <-5Gdnf-nQvstC6b7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <v1gid8$4ilc$1@dont-email.me> <v1h9eu$9faf$1@dont-email.me> <v1iqli$nsva$1@dont-email.me> <v1ln3c$vfh$1@news.muc.de> <v1s6e6$397iq$2@dont-email.me> <v1slmi$3cjtp$1@dont-email.me> <v1t8tt$3gu9t$3@dont-email.me> <v1vc8j$3jmr$1@dont-email.me> <v1vsru$7eqc$1@dont-email.me> <v21r4i$otc2$2@dont-email.me> <v22k4b$umr4$1@dont-email.me> <v24oah$1h4u3$1@dont-email.me> <v256fc$1kais$1@dont-email.me> <v29qbd$2n2pf$2@dont-email.me> <v2aggc$2r74q$3@dont-email.me> <v2akcc$1clc8$8@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 18:27:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="95afb1fc0a4871125108def5044e156a"; logging-data="3019260"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+caPD9qjmpqPSdZrz+w6XQ" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:/tIIYw4/UXbvv1mSSlTlWlkD8LI= In-Reply-To: <v2akcc$1clc8$8@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3088 On 5/18/2024 11:18 AM, joes wrote: > Am Sat, 18 May 2024 10:12:12 -0500 schrieb olcott: >> On 5/18/2024 3:54 AM, immibis wrote: >>> On 16/05/24 16:50, olcott wrote: >>>> On 5/16/2024 5:48 AM, Mikko wrote: > >> typedef int (*ptr)(); // ptr is pointer to int function >> 00 int H(ptr x, ptr y); >> 01 int D(ptr x) >> 02 { >> 03 int Halt_Status = H(x, x); >> 04 if (Halt_Status) >> 05 HERE: goto HERE; >> 06 return Halt_Status; >> 07 } >> 08 >> 09 int main() >> 10 { >> 11 H(D,D); >> 12 return 0; >> 13 } >> >> Explaining how this is incorrect requires the prerequisite knowledge >> that no D correctly simulated by any H of every H/D pair specified by >> the above template ever reaches its own line 06 and halts. >> >> There are more steps beyond this mandatory prerequisite. > Just for fun, what are these steps if we assumed this claim? > Your lack of understanding would provide what would seem to be a valid rebuttal to other people also lacking this understanding. Thus I am unwilling to break the Socratic method to accommodate this divergence from the point. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer