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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Sebastian <sebastian@here.com.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Another FOSS Gem Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 08:14:49 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 21 Message-ID: <v2ccdn$39nup$1@dont-email.me> References: <17d05e981fe6d8d5$29125$542956$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <v28pv7$2e0sb$1@dont-email.me> <6647f2ff$0$7053$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <v2a8s2$2pqal$2@dont-email.me> <6648a71e$0$6438$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> Injection-Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 10:14:49 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4311d44ae4d82d68901f16b48db4f5e8"; logging-data="3465177"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+i8qvoj2rTuL1bDHUl83wmuMv8vQ3XVPg=" User-Agent: tin/2.6.2-20221225 ("Pittyvaich") (Linux/6.1.0-18-amd64 (x86_64)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:njsozEkmWT9u+QbLik6aUttq1f8= Bytes: 2103 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > On Sat, 18 May 2024 09:01:53 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >>> Funny enough, I notice that Pan, of all things, is not included in the >>> Fedora repositories. What the heck is that all about? >> >> Fedora panned it! (pun intended!) > > They basically went out of their way to retire it. Do they also consider > Usenet to be dead? Red Hat is the main company in the Linux community insisting that everything has to change in order to make Linux "modern." Systemd was from them, and they also have a hand in Wayland, and usrmerge was their idea. They also have radical ideas that haven't been forced on the entire Linux community (yet), such as read-only rootfs, and image-based updates. They always export their radical ideas to all other distros, and if this extends to small details like the availability of newsreaders, I'd expect to see them vanish from Debian and other distros before too long.