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From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: cpu-x
Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 13:04:06 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2024-05-19, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2024 01:41:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB
><ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2024-05-17, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 May 2024 14:06:25 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/17/2024 12:46 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2024 12:06:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/17/2024 11:14 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2024 13:41:10 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-17, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2024 03:04:45 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-15, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 14:04:34 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-14, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2024 22:54:36 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2024 12:14:27 GMT, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... explain how it is the _software_ that is making them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and not the _support_ for that software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is the support that is making the money. That is the point,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ever heard of “give away the razor, sell the razorblades”?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s how Free Software works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, it would be beneficial to open-source developers to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure that their software breaks easily and crashes, so as to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sell the support. Gotcha.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that would be brilliant, because customers would flock by
>>>>>>>>>>>> the droves to useless, crap software... But you may have
>>>>>>>>>>>> something, people keep using crap Microsoft Windows even though
>>>>>>>>>>>> their "customers" are really Microsoft's unpaid beta testers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They use Windows because it's what they got on the computer they
>>>>>>>>>>> purchased which cost less than a similar Mac. Considering how
>>>>>>>>>>> Windows can run on just about any hardware and support every
>>>>>>>>>>> third-party peripheral they plug into it, they are not likely to
>>>>>>>>>>> seek out an alternative, even if it crashes a few times. It also
>>>>>>>>>>> has the largest library of software, and tons of experts can be
>>>>>>>>>>> found on the web to help them with any technical problem they
>>>>>>>>>>> have,
>>>>>>>>>>> free of charge. Those are real benefits, no matter how much one
>>>>>>>>>>> hates Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I find a lot better support for Linux on the Internet than I do
>>>>>>>>>> for Windows. There are a LOT of people who'll tell you how to fix
>>>>>>>>>> Windows...
>>>>>>>>>> only problem is, none of it EVER works. When my wife's old
>>>>>>>>>> computer BSOD'd (twice during upgrades) I found (and tried) about
>>>>>>>>>> 20 "solutions,"
>>>>>>>>>> none of which worked.
>>>>>>>>>> The second time I went to what actually worked sooner — using a
>>>>>>>>>> Linux Live[B USB to download her data and rebuild the computer
>>>>>>>>>> from scratch. I could be a great Windows support expert... I've
>>>>>>>>>> already memorized the three Rs,
>>>>>>>>>> "Reboot. Reboot. Rebuild."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (Again this is from a years back and I will admit that wife has
>>>>>>>>>> had a lot less trouble since then. Although I still have to reset
>>>>>>>>>> her network something or other when it slows to crawl on the
>>>>>>>>>> Internet (what is that crap?). And I still think Windows is the
>>>>>>>>>> most convoluted crap OS ever made.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are three issues I can imagine for the slow Internet: 1) an
>>>>>>>>> IP mismatch caused by a crappy TP-Link router (I've had this
>>>>>>>>> issue), 2) terrible Wi-Fi hardware such as the chips made by
>>>>>>>>> MediaTek, 3) too much distance and interference between her
>>>>>>>>> computer and the router. If you have a cheap TP-Link router, get
>>>>>>>>> rid of that thing. Their more expensive models are fine, but the
>>>>>>>>> one selling for around $30 causes a lot of chaos.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a TP-Link router and it works well because the computers,
>>>>>>>> except for one room, are connected via LAN cables. I think TP-Link
>>>>>>>> routers can't handle a lot of WiFi traffic — they overheat. But the
>>>>>>>> Gigabyte Ethernet ports seem to be rock solid. There's computers in
>>>>>>>> nine locations in this house. Fortunately, when they ran the phone
>>>>>>>> cables they used CAT 5, so I just re-terminated the cables to CAT 5
>>>>>>>> jacks, added five, cheap ($7 Gigabyte switches) and ran some CAT 5
>>>>>>>> cable at the base of the wall for some of the locations not near a
>>>>>>>> jack — and everyone has fast, reliable Internet. Now that you
>>>>>>>> mention it, I don't think my wife's computer has had to have the
>>>>>>>> network reset since I ran the Ethernet cable to her computer. But I
>>>>>>>> never had problems with the Linux computers when using the same WiFi
>>>>>>>> connections.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With the aforementioned TP-Link router a technician from my ISP gave
>>>>>>> me, I had no problems in Linux either. However, the moment I got back
>>>>>>> into Windows, it wouldn't give me any kind of Internet after
>>>>>>> connecting to the router. I only eventually figured out that the
>>>>>>> router in question was using an already used IP address despite being
>>>>>>> configured not to. Why that would only be a problem for Windows is
>>>>>>> beyond me.
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>>> Linux has much of the above too, but its library of software
>>>>>>>>>>> isn't as impressive and the software's general quality isn't
>>>>>>>>>>> there either. It works on anything, that's true, but not anyone
>>>>>>>>>>> is comfortable with the process of installing it, no matter how
>>>>>>>>>>> easy it is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I understand. I've known people who buy a new Windows computer
>>>>>>>>>> every time the old one slows down because that's all they want to
>>>>>>>>>> know. "Doesn't work right any more, but a new one."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, we're dealing with high inflation and a likely recession
>>>>>>>>> which should prompt most people to save as much money as they can
>>>>>>>>> by keeping their hardware for as long as possible. Linux is going
>>>>>>>>> to be everyone's best friend soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're probably right. It's already happening in South America.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I don't blame them for rejecting Windows or anything else
>>>>>>> American,
>>>>>>> considering what the CIA did to topple their democratically elected
>>>>>>> governments in the past to make them puppet states of the USA. How
>>>>>>> many Latin leaders need to die in a plane crash before the world
>>>>>>> realizes that the American government, not the people, is indeed The
>>>>>>> Great Satan?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> kooks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which part are you denying?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Much of the political crap you and wRonG type is nonsense, and your
>>>> hatred of the USA is ridiculous ("Removing American products from my
>>>> diet has allowed me to lose weight and keep it down.").
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe both of you kooks could quit polluting tech threads with political
>>>> statements?
>>>
>>> I've lost five pounds since I decided to stop buying anything from the 
>>> United States because of the crap that is added to every product. You can 
>>> deny that too, but it speaks volumes about you.
>>
>>GMO "food" is just fantastic, don't you know? And so is fructose and sucrose 
>>"sugar" made from corn. And added hormones in cow's milk is just peachy. 
>>Coming soon, Bill Gates' fake eggs and synthetic meat, probably full of mRNA 
>>"vaccine" "goodness."
>
> I very much expect this kind of crap to be pushed in our supermarkets
> and them making it increasingly difficult to circumvent it. They know
> that they can easily force us into buying their junk by making
> everything else expensive. 
>
>>Meanwhile Russia has banned GMO "food" and just opened another huge organic 
>>fertilizer plant. Who knew man-made chemicals (manufactured for profit) 
>>could possibly be bad for you? Meanwhile, in the U.S., shitheads like Gates 
>>are buying up all the farmland so there won't be any escape from their fake 
>>food. Maybe crickets _will_ be the most healthy thing we can eat by then.
>
> No matter how "clean" they make those crickets, there will always be
> parasites.
>
>>As for weight loss, in 2½ months I lost 35 pounds (from 210 to 175), simply 
>>by NOT drinking "diet" pop, and staying away from sugar and processed flour. 
>>And I've remained at that weight now for two years. 
>
> Sugar itself is addictive, and its consequences on weight gain and
> tooth rot are well known. The effects of aspartame and sucralose are
> not as well known, but neither does anything to help weight loss at
> the very least. Both are also thought to lead to either mental
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