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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Nice Bike to Work Day yesterday. Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 08:57:04 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 79 Message-ID: <v2d0ff$3dfnp$1@dont-email.me> References: <v28v13$2euur$1@dont-email.me> <idij4j98bfgmhnu6qh653vhmgdrhrqo75u@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 15:57:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="27de62c8959a78feec9947bb5e283680"; logging-data="3587833"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+fihbI9N++9mWIMv79fSOK" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:HCk75phEU00TSy/OBoJckM+8oMI= In-Reply-To: <idij4j98bfgmhnu6qh653vhmgdrhrqo75u@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4774 On 5/19/2024 6:33 AM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: > On Fri, 17 May 2024 18:07:44 -0700 sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> > wrote: > >> Nice Bike to Work Day was yesterday. First time since the company I work >> for changed locations that I rode in. A longer ride than our old office >> but a good route, about one third of it on a creekside MUP. >> >> Very Silicon Valley route. Rode by Apple’s HQ, Nvidia’s HQ, and Intel’s >> HQ. Some decent swag being given out, but Apple had no presence this >> year and the food this year was mediocre. >> >> So glad that bicycle infrastructure continues to expand and improve with >> more separated bike lanes and more multi-use paths. > > Roads *are* bicycle infrastructure. > > As pensioners, my wife and I are glad that we now have more > opportunities to avoid areas with accompanying and most often mandatory > bicycle infrastructure. We just came back from a vacation in a region > where there are a few cycle paths for those who don't understand it any > better, but hardly any compulsory use ones. Weather could have been > better, but otherwise it was great. > > <https://www.mystrobl.de/ws/pic/fahrrad/20240504/bi20240504c.jpg> > > That's in Germany, in a large forest near the french border. > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatinate_Forest> > >> >> Remote-working really appears to have affected bicycle commuting, with >> those persons most likely to have commuted by bicycle also the most >> likely to come into the office less frequently. > > Is that so. I started to commute by bicycle in the Eighties, doing it > almost exclusively til 2011, when a accident broke my bones and made it > impossible to continue. It took years to partially recover and I need > regular upper body muscle training to compensate for some of the damage. > The cause for the crash was an ingredient that can be found on almost > every "bicycle infrastructure", but hardly ever on real roads: a shard > of glass that had led to a sudden loss of pressure later, at the worst > possible moment, causing an unexpected fall. I had learned to avoid > most bike paths back then and did well with it. Unfortunately, there was > no viable alternative to this cycle path, a popular place for bums and > teenagers to drink and smash bottles. > > > Another example of perfect infrastructure, somewhat nearer to where we > live. Look at that road, about 20 km from and about 200 m of altitude > above our house. > > <https://diasp.org/posts/34132ce0e2c9013a9ffc28a1592b385a> > > It is a perfect example of bicycle infrastructure. > > This road does not need “bicycle infrastructure”, because it *is* > bicycle infrastructure. As cyclists, we neither need nor enjoy so-called > “bicycle infrastructure”. My wife and I prefer such roads just like they > are. Most people do. The royal "we" - "we need bicycle infrastructure" - > is a lame excuse for *not* using a bicycle. > > Since 2021, I have taken a photo at this spot every time I touch this > road on one of my regular road bike rides. Unlike most bicycle > infrastructure around here, the road is not broken, never dirty, never > closed for long periods, and certainly never closed without official > notice. Although it is in better condition than most of the bicycle > infrastructure here, it was resurfaced over several kilometers last year > and now in a perfect condition. Because there is important traffic on > that road. And that doesn't mean bicycles. > Your photos could have been taken in my area as well. Very good 'cycling infrastructure' because none of it is bicycle-specific! -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971