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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Nice Bike to Work Day yesterday. Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 10:26:58 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 85 Message-ID: <v2d27j$3dqbp$1@dont-email.me> References: <v28v13$2euur$1@dont-email.me> <idij4j98bfgmhnu6qh653vhmgdrhrqo75u@4ax.com> <v2d0ff$3dfnp$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 16:27:01 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6032a3dea9cd92ad7744232898d64859"; logging-data="3598713"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+X9SLPCbj6axWtCHRnolquQfaBrci+6oI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:7sEOftyBSKG6bWTQVUcESxRKTQE= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v2d0ff$3dfnp$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 5328 On 5/19/2024 9:57 AM, AMuzi wrote: > On 5/19/2024 6:33 AM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: >> On Fri, 17 May 2024 18:07:44 -0700 sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Nice Bike to Work Day was yesterday. First time since the company I work >>> for changed locations that I rode in. A longer ride than our old office >>> but a good route, about one third of it on a creekside MUP. >>> >>> Very Silicon Valley route. Rode by Apple’s HQ, Nvidia’s HQ, and Intel’s >>> HQ. Some decent swag being given out, but Apple had no presence this >>> year and the food this year was mediocre. >>> >>> So glad that bicycle infrastructure continues to expand and improve with >>> more separated bike lanes and more multi-use paths. >> >> Roads *are* bicycle infrastructure. >> >> As pensioners, my wife and I are glad that we now have more >> opportunities to avoid areas with accompanying and most often mandatory >> bicycle infrastructure. We just came back from a vacation in a region >> where there are a few cycle paths for those who don't understand it any >> better, but hardly any compulsory use ones. Weather could have been >> better, but otherwise it was great. >> >> <https://www.mystrobl.de/ws/pic/fahrrad/20240504/bi20240504c.jpg> >> >> That's in Germany, in a large forest near the french border. >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatinate_Forest> >> >>> >>> Remote-working really appears to have affected bicycle commuting, with >>> those persons most likely to have commuted by bicycle also the most >>> likely to come into the office less frequently. >> >> Is that so. I started to commute by bicycle in the Eighties, doing it >> almost exclusively til 2011, when a accident broke my bones and made it >> impossible to continue. It took years to partially recover and I need >> regular upper body muscle training to compensate for some of the damage. >> The cause for the crash was an ingredient that can be found on almost >> every "bicycle infrastructure", but hardly ever on real roads: a shard >> of glass that had led to a sudden loss of pressure later, at the worst >> possible moment, causing an unexpected fall. I had learned to avoid >> most bike paths back then and did well with it. Unfortunately, there was >> no viable alternative to this cycle path, a popular place for bums and >> teenagers to drink and smash bottles. >> >> >> Another example of perfect infrastructure, somewhat nearer to where we >> live. Look at that road, about 20 km from and about 200 m of altitude >> above our house. >> >> <https://diasp.org/posts/34132ce0e2c9013a9ffc28a1592b385a> >> >> It is a perfect example of bicycle infrastructure. >> >> This road does not need “bicycle infrastructure”, because it *is* >> bicycle infrastructure. As cyclists, we neither need nor enjoy so-called >> “bicycle infrastructure”. My wife and I prefer such roads just like they >> are. Most people do. The royal "we" - "we need bicycle infrastructure" - >> is a lame excuse for *not* using a bicycle. >> >> Since 2021, I have taken a photo at this spot every time I touch this >> road on one of my regular road bike rides. Unlike most bicycle >> infrastructure around here, the road is not broken, never dirty, never >> closed for long periods, and certainly never closed without official >> notice. Although it is in better condition than most of the bicycle >> infrastructure here, it was resurfaced over several kilometers last year >> and now in a perfect condition. Because there is important traffic on >> that road. And that doesn't mean bicycles. >> > > Your photos could have been taken in my area as well. Very good 'cycling > infrastructure' because none of it is bicycle-specific! Here too! We have countless little farm roads with low traffic. I think it's because Northeast Ohio was one of the first areas of the Northwest Territory to receive non-native settlers. Many small farms with roads to access them, unlike (say) the huge ranches in the western U.S. And our cities are old enough to have dense grid street plans, so there are often many choices of streets in any given direction. -- - Frank Krygowski