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Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Ir remotes Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 04:07:24 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <v2fate$3usaf$1@dont-email.me> References: <v2esfv$3s1ts$1@dont-email.me> <v2etb9$3s8ci$1@dont-email.me> <v2f6cv$3tvoi$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 13:07:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5d80f1dc6dc80e940061abf9488d5484"; logging-data="4157775"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Toegmmw+KpvHLMyPQP+f9" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:u9MdWOEieOigy+w7btY0slVpzXs= In-Reply-To: <v2f6cv$3tvoi$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2837 On 5/20/2024 2:50 AM, Lasse Langwadt wrote: > On 5/20/24 09:15, Don Y wrote: >> On 5/20/2024 12:01 AM, Don Y wrote: >>> My understanding is that Ir remotes modulate an Ir "carrier" signal >>> in a particular pattern to express a particular "code" corresponding to >>> the key pressed/held. >>> >>> And, that different "chipsets" use different carriers and encodings. >>> >>> Is there a front-end that is tuned to the particular carrier >>> in the receiver? Or, is all of this done "digitally"? >>> >>> I.e., with a fast-enough (Ir) photodetector, should I be able to >>> decode ANY signal from ANY "remote"? >> >> And, before anyone mentions the obvious, I've already looked at lircd >> which is the reason behind this post; why do they claim they can handle >> ALMOST all remotes? Is this a limitation of their hardware implementation? >> Or, timing problems in the way they try to process the raw video signal? > > afaik almost all use a 30-50kHz carrier, nominally something like 38kHz, > I think the common IR receivers have build in bandpass filter, so it is just a > matter of interpreting bits (there's a few common protocols) > > I know that B&O (used to?) be an exception with a 455kHz carrier, I'm guessing Yikes! > because someone clever many decades ago thought to use an AM IF filter If that is the case, then signaling an interrupt on each edge/cycle would obviously kill a linux kernel (I've handled 140KHz interrupts but 455KHz would really be an annoyance) 50KHz would be a piece of cake. Thanks. I should be able to verify this by looking to see what sort of B&O devices are (or are NOT) supported.