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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this?
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 14:34:18 -0500
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On 5/20/2024 2:30 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 5/20/2024 12:28 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 5/20/2024 2:23 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>> On 5/20/2024 12:15 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 5/20/2024 1:35 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>> On 5/20/2024 10:20 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 12:15 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>>>>> Am 20.05.2024 um 18:01 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 10:16 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Am 20.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is a simple question about the behavior of C functions.
>>>>>>>>>> This group's purpose is the C/C++ language.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your question is generic to most languages and you're
>>>>>>>>> not asking how to do that in C or how to improve that.
>>>>>>>>> And you're asking the same thing for years.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes I am very persistent. I keep asking until
>>>>>>>> I get an answer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After some time you should recognize you're doing circles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am asking a straight forward question that people
>>>>>> keep ignoring it has nothing to do will my circles:
>>>>>> Ask until answered stops when answered.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Think of your halt decider running a black box program. 
>>>>
>>>> *It is not even a halt decider in this post it is merely a simulator*
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Humm... So, what is your main point? You cannot decide if a program 
>>> will halt, _unless_ you code the test program?
>>>
>>
>> My ONLY point has been to put the people that have continued to
>> lie about the behavior of D correctly simulated by H in their place.
>> Several people have consistently lied about this for two years.
>>
> 
> My only point is that one cannot 100% totally decide if a black box 
> program will halt, or not.

I am not asking about any black box program.
D is fully specified and the only relevant detail about H is that

it correctly simulates 1 to ∞ steps of D thus including 0 to ∞
recursive simulations of H simulating itself simulating D.

*From this we can conclude*
*D correctly simulated by H never reaches its own line 06 and halts*



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