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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this?
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 14:38:38 -0500
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On 5/20/2024 2:36 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 5/20/2024 12:34 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 5/20/2024 2:30 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>> On 5/20/2024 12:28 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 5/20/2024 2:23 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>> On 5/20/2024 12:15 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 1:35 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 10:20 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 12:15 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Am 20.05.2024 um 18:01 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 10:16 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 20.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a simple question about the behavior of C functions.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This group's purpose is the C/C++ language.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your question is generic to most languages and you're
>>>>>>>>>>> not asking how to do that in C or how to improve that.
>>>>>>>>>>> And you're asking the same thing for years.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes I am very persistent. I keep asking until
>>>>>>>>>> I get an answer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After some time you should recognize you're doing circles.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am asking a straight forward question that people
>>>>>>>> keep ignoring it has nothing to do will my circles:
>>>>>>>> Ask until answered stops when answered.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Think of your halt decider running a black box program. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *It is not even a halt decider in this post it is merely a simulator*
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Humm... So, what is your main point? You cannot decide if a program 
>>>>> will halt, _unless_ you code the test program?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My ONLY point has been to put the people that have continued to
>>>> lie about the behavior of D correctly simulated by H in their place.
>>>> Several people have consistently lied about this for two years.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My only point is that one cannot 100% totally decide if a black box 
>>> program will halt, or not.
>>
>> I am not asking about any black box program.
>> D is fully specified and the only relevant detail about H is that
>>
>> it correctly simulates 1 to ∞ steps of D thus including 0 to ∞
>> recursive simulations of H simulating itself simulating D.
> 
> How do you simulate to infinity, and perhaps beyond?
> 

The Turing machine isomorphism of the H/D pair is off-topic
for this group.

>>
>> *From this we can conclude*
>> *D correctly simulated by H never reaches its own line 06 and halts*
>>
>>
>>
> 

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