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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this?
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 14:48:44 -0500
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On 5/20/2024 2:44 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 5/20/2024 12:40 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 5/20/2024 2:38 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> [...]
>>> So, your thing will tell me if a program XYZ will halt or not only 
>>> _after_ it simulates to infinity? What am I missing here?
>>
>> *The 100% totally complete every single detail scope of my post*
>> *The 100% totally complete every single detail scope of my post*
>> *The 100% totally complete every single detail scope of my post*
>>
>> typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function
>> 00 int H(ptr p, ptr i);
>> 01 int D(ptr p)
>> 02 {
>> 03   int Halt_Status = H(p, p);
>> 04   if (Halt_Status)
>> 05     HERE: goto HERE;
>> 06   return Halt_Status;
>> 07 }
>> 08
>> 09 int main()
>> 10 {
>> 11   H(D,D);
>> 12   return 0;
>> 13 }
>> [...]
>> For every H/D pair of the above template D correctly simulated by pure
>> function (thus computable function) H cannot possibly reach its own
>> final state at line 06 and halt.
>>
>>
> 
> Define H?

I have two fully operational examples of H that have been fully
operational for years. I am not talking about those. I am only
talking this:

typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function
00 int H(ptr p, ptr i);
01 int D(ptr p)
02 {
03   int Halt_Status = H(p, p);
04   if (Halt_Status)
05     HERE: goto HERE;
06   return Halt_Status;
07 }
08
09 int main()
10 {
11   H(D,D);
12   return 0;
13 }

Every element of an infinite set of H/D pairs matching the above
template where H correctly simulates 1 to ∞ steps of D thus including
0 to ∞ recursive simulations of H simulating itself simulating D.
*D correctly simulated by H never reaches its own line 06 and halts*


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