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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: Can someone please verify the execution trace of this? Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 14:53:35 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 94 Message-ID: <v2g9nv$59f0$3@dont-email.me> References: <v2b78t$2vima$1@dont-email.me> <v2df79$3ghfd$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v2di7v$3gujt$1@dont-email.me> <v2eada$3p6sk$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v2edbr$3pl2i$1@dont-email.me> <v2eluk$3r1qu$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v2enl9$3r9t0$1@dont-email.me> <v2erbb$3rt3e$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v2fnqq$1hhg$1@dont-email.me> <v2fpgi$1vq6$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v2fs3s$2i1u$1@dont-email.me> <v2g0fd$3hp3$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v2g0oc$3j0c$1@dont-email.me> <v2g55d$4cjb$1@dont-email.me> <v2g7fv$4nu0$4@dont-email.me> <v2g7vf$51fq$1@dont-email.me> <v2g8g3$51fq$3@dont-email.me> <v2g8ov$551c$2@dont-email.me> <v2g90g$51fq$6@dont-email.me> <v2g995$59f0$1@dont-email.me> <v2g9br$51fq$9@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 21:53:36 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="629f9cefad5d4023792ce8f8ed8d9594"; logging-data="173536"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19OLhdu/FYbX76JbCzIgst/" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:DFo2B7bpLuj0QwJP3mLZe4np6kY= In-Reply-To: <v2g9br$51fq$9@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 5446 On 5/20/2024 2:47 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 5/20/2024 12:45 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 5/20/2024 2:41 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> On 5/20/2024 12:37 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 5/20/2024 2:32 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>> On 5/20/2024 12:23 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>> On 5/20/2024 12:15 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 1:35 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 10:20 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 12:15 PM, Bonita Montero wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Am 20.05.2024 um 18:01 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 10:16 AM, Bonita Montero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Am 20.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a simple question about the behavior of C functions. >>>>>>>>>>>>> This group's purpose is the C/C++ language. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Your question is generic to most languages and you're >>>>>>>>>>>> not asking how to do that in C or how to improve that. >>>>>>>>>>>> And you're asking the same thing for years. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes I am very persistent. I keep asking until >>>>>>>>>>> I get an answer. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After some time you should recognize you're doing circles. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am asking a straight forward question that people >>>>>>>>> keep ignoring it has nothing to do will my circles: >>>>>>>>> Ask until answered stops when answered. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Think of your halt decider running a black box program. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *It is not even a halt decider in this post it is merely a >>>>>>> simulator* >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> >>>>>> Humm... So, what is your main point? You cannot decide if a >>>>>> program will halt, _unless_ you code the test program? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can I create a program that runs in your simulator? Can I call into >>>>> a TRNG or something? Create a race condition on purpose? Check this >>>>> out: >>>>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.c++/c/7u_rLgQe86k/m/fYU9SnuAFQAJ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> The entire scope of my 20 year primary research only has >>>> the scope of the conventional HP counter-example inputs. >>>> >>>> I can do this at the Turing Machine level too, yet off-topic >>>> for this group. >>>> >>> >>> So, you do not care if the halting problem can be applied to a "black >>> box" program? What am I missing here? I must be missing something >>> important, right? >> >> I do not want to discuss things that are off-topic for this >> group. I don't want to discuss anything with anyone until >> after my claim about the execution trace has been validated. >> >> I am using categorically exhaustive reasoning that can work >> through every possibility that can possibly exist in a feasible >> amount of time as long as the category is very very narrow. >> >> Enlarge the category a tiny little bit and then the time >> becomes infeasible. >> >> THIS IS THE CATEGORY >> *D correctly simulated by H never reaches its own line 06 and halts* >> >> > > How can I create a program that runs in your simulator? That is another different category of question. If I was not diagnosed with POD24 and instead was 100% totally immortal I could not tolerate the change-the-subject rebuttal and prove my point in finite time. *Validation of POD24 as a robust early clinical end point of* *poor survival in FL from 5225 patients on 13 clinical trials* https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34614146/ -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer