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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: KevinJ93 <kevin_es@whitedigs.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Ir remotes Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 14:43:18 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <v2gg5m$6gb3$1@dont-email.me> References: <v2esfv$3s1ts$1@dont-email.me> <c3bn4jl6jntj2th4cecm329il1l8kk5tc8@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 23:43:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9d5159007ad28d10e1765cfb06760794"; logging-data="213347"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX194UNJWb2x9eWAqBFIouLxP" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:plANPFcwc8VcTuKZGSwbqLmtcjc= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <c3bn4jl6jntj2th4cecm329il1l8kk5tc8@4ax.com> Bytes: 2754 On 5/20/24 1:07 PM, LM wrote: > On Mon, 20 May 2024 00:01:18 -0700, Don Y > <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: > >> My understanding is that Ir remotes modulate an Ir "carrier" signal >> in a particular pattern to express a particular "code" corresponding to >> the key pressed/held. >> >> And, that different "chipsets" use different carriers and encodings. >> >> Is there a front-end that is tuned to the particular carrier >> in the receiver? Or, is all of this done "digitally"? >> >> I.e., with a fast-enough (Ir) photodetector, should I be able to >> decode ANY signal from ANY "remote"? >> >> Said another way, is the fact that a particular device ONLY >> recognizes a particular remote related to its use of a particular >> chipset (or, equivalently, decoding algorithm in software)? >> >> [The former would be hard to change but the latter should be relatively easy] > Are you looking for something like this: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC-5 > > Years ago a long range remote used IR leds which could take 1A > current, but only for a microsecond or so. Microsecond pulses were > modulated with 33-38kHz "carrioer" and that was keyed with data, > around 1-2kHz. > There are dedicated deceiver modules which can output that data Such as: https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/datasheets/tsop382.pdf They do all the analogue processing and just output a datastream to the decoder. Typically the bitstream runs about 1kbit/s so easily decoded by software. The transmitter can also be handled by driving an LED from a timer programmed to output the 38kHz then doing on-off keying (OOK) to provide the modulation. Minimal hardware outside a microprocessor is required. kw