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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: immibis <news@immibis.com> Newsgroups: sci.logic,comp.theory Subject: Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 18:08:11 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: <v2igtb$lqek$1@dont-email.me> References: <v1mljr$1q5ee$4@dont-email.me> <v290i2$1a3tk$21@i2pn2.org> <v2937a$2jfci$1@dont-email.me> <v294e1$1a3tk$22@i2pn2.org> <v297m8$2k4a6$1@dont-email.me> <v2a7p7$1ct7p$2@i2pn2.org> <v2ad5l$2qlho$1@dont-email.me> <v2ae6h$1ct7p$5@i2pn2.org> <v2am4p$2sdl6$1@dont-email.me> <v2amkc$1ct7p$13@i2pn2.org> <v2aobj$2sdma$5@dont-email.me> <v2ap1t$1ct7o$9@i2pn2.org> <v2b0jd$2u8oi$1@dont-email.me> <v2b17b$1ct7p$16@i2pn2.org> <v2b1dr$2u8oi$3@dont-email.me> <v2b9mo$1ecj9$2@i2pn2.org> <v2bb6d$308qd$2@dont-email.me> <v2bc5o$1ecj9$3@i2pn2.org> <v2bsog$36vvc$1@dont-email.me> <v2cpb1$1g2n8$1@i2pn2.org> <v2cvj6$3ddo5$1@dont-email.me> <v2dc83$1g2n9$10@i2pn2.org> <v2dmem$3i21i$1@dont-email.me> <v2e236$1g2n8$5@i2pn2.org> <v2g6hr$4nu0$1@dont-email.me> <v2grhe$1kiah$1@i2pn2.org> <v2gusf$ctu7$1@dont-email.me> <v2h0lf$1kiah$13@i2pn2.org> <v2h2hs$dgea$1@dont-email.me> <v2h4ui$1kiag$1@i2pn2.org> <v2hcqa$f1og$1@dont-email.me> <v2i1qk$1kiah$15@i2pn2.org> <v2icua$l65b$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 18:08:11 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fe6a0cd08d71f4e15b47e3efc1ec3260"; logging-data="715220"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19WJXmfe8Xy71XayDFxsVwx" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ocev/lSma+74bb0RjcKUTnD57cM= In-Reply-To: <v2icua$l65b$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3043 On 21/05/24 17:00, olcott wrote: > On 5/21/2024 3:05 AM, Mikko wrote: > > On 2024-05-20 17:48:40 +0000, olcott said: > >> True(English, "a cat is an animal) is true > >> LP := ~True(L, LP) expands to ~True(~True(~True(~True(...)))) > > > > No, it doesn't. It is a syntax error to have the same symbol on > > both sides ":=" so the expansion is not justified. What if it is not defined as ~True(L, p) but we could prove that A ⇒ (p ⇔ ~True(L, p)) then it would prove that A is false. > On 5/13/2024 7:29 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > Remember, p defined as ~True(L, p) is BY DEFINITION a > > truth bearer, as True must return a Truth Value for > > all inputs, and ~ a truth valus is always the other > > truth value. > > p defined as ~True(L, p) is rejected as a syntax error. "this sentence is false" defined as ¬True(English, "this sentence is false") is rejected as a syntax error? so ¬True(English, "this sentence is false") is a syntax error? I thought you said ¬True(English, "this sentence is false") is false.