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From: "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: An actual circuit
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 15:35:00 -0400
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I was having a conversation with a younger person who seemed to be of the 
view that to make an LED flash you would need something to decide when it 
should be on or off. So that would be some kind of software or digital 
system.

This reminded me of when, in my teen years, I was curious about how slow I 
could make an LED flash without using any expensively large capacitors.

I built a circuit like the one below but it needed a kick starter (another 
resistor, larger capacitor and diode) to make it go at power on.

LTSpice says the circuit below starts up with only a little imbalance in the 
values of R2 and R6 but how can I be sure that a real circuit will do this 
when component tolerances are taken into account?

Watch out for line wraps and 0.1 uF character encoding issues.

Version 4
SHEET 1 1396 772
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SYMATTR Value 2N3819
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WINDOW 0 7 -9 Left 2
WINDOW 3 -64 100 Left 2
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SYMATTR Value 2N3819
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WINDOW 0 61 31 Left 2
WINDOW 3 61 69 Left 2
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SYMATTR Value 2N3904
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SYMATTR InstName R2
SYMATTR Value 2.7k
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SYMATTR InstName R6
SYMATTR Value 3.3k
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WINDOW 123 0 0 Left 0
WINDOW 39 0 0 Left 0
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WINDOW 3 0 32 VBottom 2
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WINDOW 0 57 22 Left 2
WINDOW 3 55 56 Left 2
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SYMATTR InstName R3
SYMATTR Value 1k
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SYMATTR InstName R4
SYMATTR Value 10Meg
SYMBOL res 288 0 R0
SYMATTR InstName R5
SYMATTR Value 10Meg
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SYMATTR InstName R8
SYMATTR Value 150
SYMBOL res -160 80 R0
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SYMATTR Value 150
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WINDOW 0 31 -3 Left 2
WINDOW 3 33 77 Left 2
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WINDOW 0 -32 3 Left 2
WINDOW 3 -113 67 Left 2
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WINDOW 0 32 32 VTop 2
WINDOW 3 0 32 VBottom 2
SYMATTR InstName C3
SYMATTR Value 0.1µ
SYMATTR SpiceLine V=25 Irms=0 Rser=0.0173 Lser=350p mfg="Würth Elektronik" 
pn="885012207072 WCAP-CSGP 0805" type="X7R"
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