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From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like
 badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 21:26:59 -0000 (UTC)
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Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Chris wrote on Mon, 20 May 2024 09:43:04 -0000 (UTC) :
> 
>> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>>> Chris wrote on Wed, 15 May 2024 17:12:35 -0000 (UTC) :
>>> 
>>>>> <https://www.androidheadlines.com/2022/01/google-monthly-changelog-play-system-updates.html>
>>>>> "Google System updates, meanwhile, are fully automated. Originally
>>>>> referred to as Project Mainline, these updates fix bugs discovered 
>>>>> in various OS components like device connectivity, location services,
>>>>> media services, Emergency alerts, and others."
>>>> 
>>>> But does it patch every exploit in android which is what you claim Apple
>>>> does do? Having lots of updates on *some* things is pointless. 
>>> 
>>> Chris,
>> 
>> Answer the question. 
> 
> I responded to every one of your questions, 

You do respond (not always), but you rarely answer. 

> Chris (see below), as if
> you own the same adult capacity to comprehend details as I do, Chris.
> 
> In addition, after I spent a while documenting the answers for you,
> Chris - which I expect you to read and understand every cite below 
> before responding, I posed a question for you in the last line of 
> this missive. *Please see the last line for a question for you.*

Posting a list of links for the reader to reach a conclusion from is not an
answer. 

> Just as Microsoft doesn't patch Firefox bugs, Android has a system for 
> updating all the apps (it's part of the Google Play Store setup, Chris).
> 
> Just as Microsoft has a monthly Patch Tuesday, Android has a monthly patch 
> of every single Android device on the Internet (older than version 4.4).

Yet, major app developers choose to not support such versions of Android
because it isn't secure. 

> And for platform specific bugs, Samsung and Google have full support for 
> seven years now

From now, yes, but currently in use models will still only get 3-4 years.
Which is less than iphones. 

> 
> Do you understand any of that, Chris?

You don't understand the question. 

>>>> Many apps also won't be updated if they're on old versions of android. So
>>>> again partially patching android 4.4 is pointless. 
>>> 
>>> What you do not understand is the non-Google apps are updated separately.
>> 
>> I absolutely know that, which is exactly the point. Non- google apps refuse
>> to update their apps on obsolete versions of android. So Google supposedly
>> updating some parts of Android 4.4 is a waste of time. 
> 
> Again, I will speak with you as if you're an adult, Chris.
> Even though this has been explained on this group umpteen times already.
> 
> All non-Google apps are updated by their developers, Chris. 
> Just like non-Apple apps are updated by their developers, Chris.
> 
> The non-Google apps are automatically updated, by default, on Android, by 
> the Google Play Store update mechanism. 

Not if they're on too old versions of android. 

>> 
>> Answer the question. Is the frequency of android updates a good thing?
> 
> Yet again, 

You've answered nothing. 

>> I have shown you the evidence several times. The fact you chose to snip it
>> rather address it, speaks volumes regarding your wilful ignorance. 
>
> Chris, 
> 
> This is why I call you Apple religious zealots what I call you.
> 
> I answered all your questions so many times 

No you haven't. Responding with verbatim repetition of your garbage is not
an "answer". 

>> The evidence is two-fold: 1) Apple updates older versions of ios very
>> regularly, 2) ios support of older hardware is *years* longer than Google
>> or Samsung. Their new policies will only come into reality i'm a few years.
> 
> Read the references, Chris. These are facts. Not trolls.
>  <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog> 
>  <https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
>  <https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/>
>  <https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>
>  <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>
>  <https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/samsung-extends-android-and-security-updates-to-7-years/>
>  <https://www.tomsguide.com/opinion/google-pixel-8-software-updates>
>  <https://www.androidheadlines.com/2022/01/google-monthly-changelog-play-system-updates.html>
> 
> You live in the past. That last thing you heard about Apple was from Jobs.
> 
>>>>> The fact is Apple only fully supports one release only.
>>>>> No other operating system vendor has support that sucks that bad.
>>>> 
>>>> It's an acceptable model when all supported hardware can run the most OS.
>>>> You wouldn't expect anyone to keep a 386 up-to-date? Maybe you would. 
>>> 
>> 
>> Answer the question!
> 
> One more time I'm going to respond to you as if you're an adult.
> That means you need to read and undersand the response, Chris.
> 
> If you can't do that, you don't own adult comprehensive skills, Chris.
> Especially for someone who claims to have a PhD in the life sciences.
> 
> My Windows desktop was built in 2009 and it's still running a fully 
> supported operating system that has all known bugs patched, Chris.

Yet again you're not answering the question. Should MS keep supporting a
386?