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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: [OT] German politician successfully prosecuted for telling the truth Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 23:24:23 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: <v2oj77$1viiu$1@dont-email.me> References: <20240522125702.0000756a@example.com> <atropos-DCEA6D.13351123052024@news.giganews.com> <v2ohni$1v2sq$2@dont-email.me> <atropos-C06679.16281423052024@news.giganews.com> Injection-Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 01:24:23 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="33f497df0ef9dc7532e79d2ae5c31000"; logging-data="2083422"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/OG5I0N/qSlcLpAdP9gNq+aEewQkBi9iQ=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:qoTq/GFqX1sg+ZT+za2prH3LEXY= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Bytes: 3390 BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>5/23/2024 2:38 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>On 5/22/2024 12:57 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>>Once again, Leo Kearse hits it out of the park: >>>>>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5uW1Htq7XU [10 minutes] >>>>>>I listened to enough to hear the claim that truth is a defense >>>>>>against a charge of "incitement to hatred" ...which, obviously, >>>>>>it isn't. >>>>>As I said, the truth is now illegal. >>>>>But neither should citing the government's own crime statistics in a >>>>>discussion about public policy be considered "incitement to hatred" >>>>>merely because it undermines the government's immigration agenda. >>>>As I said, an "incitement to hatred" needn't carry any lie. >>>And expanding on what I said, if you make truth illegal because you've >>>created circumstances that allow you to claim it leads to some nebulous >>>concept of 'hatred', then you've successfully muzzled all political >>>opposition and have created a dictatorial society where anyone who >>>speaks against you is criminalized. >>>And this all comes from the people who are constantly bleating about the >>>need to "protect muh democracy!" >>Political opposition? It's far worse than what you've stated. >>The justice researchers and analysts who compiled the statistics then >>reported their finding are every bit as guilty of "incitement to hatred" >>as the politician. >>What about the police who made arrests who are required by law to report >>ethnic and national characteristics of the perpetrator and victim? By >>complying with their duty to observe and report, they too have run afoul >>of the law. >>How about a witness who desribed the perpetrator? Guilty. >>How about the victim or complaining witness? Guilty. >>How about the newspaper that discussed justice statistics? Guilty. >And this is a moviePig approved society. It's so odd that moviePig lives in a society in which everyone enjoys liberty that moviePig does not approve of but refuses to live in any society with severe restrictions on speech and lacking freedom of the press. I have no explanation for moviePig's contradictory nature.