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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: the future long term financial apocalypse of the USA Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 18:04:16 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <v2op2d$20c0h$2@dont-email.me> References: <v1loc6$1gcqh$2@dont-email.me> <DYt%N.156465$gF_b.96561@fx17.iad> <v1lvac$1hv9j$1@dont-email.me> <h45v3j9cjvnfl4ead0nbk52gqjtluvtigr@4ax.com> <v2lm37$1blem$3@dont-email.me> <alpu4jh5d5e3emkpq4pkp80ljfi03rpmni@4ax.com> <YbK3O.4973$aAQc.3464@fx16.iad> <v2ofu5$1v1s9$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 03:04:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="12a1567172936f43496b5c6a59115226"; logging-data="2109457"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+YlmJk6o1qPQ+hxWx+puwv" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:79xnLrk8UscJ694PKEi2izHCQyc= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v2ofu5$1v1s9$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2972 On 5/23/2024 3:28 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote: > On 5/23/2024 11:31 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes: >>> On Wed, 22 May 2024 15:55:03 -0500, Lynn McGuire >>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> BTW, I suspect that USA Social Security will be means tested in the >>>> not=20 >>>> too distant future. The means testing will be whether or not you >>>> own a=20 >>>> home. >>> >>> /That/ will piss off a lot of people. At last! An issue the 1%-ers and >>> the home-owning lesser mortals can agree on! >> >> Lynn pulled that out of his posterior. There hasn't even been any >> rational discussion of means testing outside of SSI (Suplementary >> Security Income). >> >> And when it has been brought up, >> >> "Proposals to 'means-test' Social Security - by cutting benefits for >> higher-income retirees - wouldn't save significant money unless they >> cut benefits for middle-class retirees as well; such measures would >> also pose high administrative costs." >> >> ... >> >> "These facts argue for addressing Social Security's financing >> shortfall >> primarily through revenue increases - a position that the >> majority of >> people in the United States strongly support." >> >> https://www.cbpp.org/research/social-security/social-security-benefits-are-modest >> >> Not likely to happen. > > Time will tell. The horizon is short, 2019 at the latest with the USA > running a $4 trillion deficit this year. > So Social Security collapsed five years ago? -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.