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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Can you see that D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in
 recursive simulation?
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 15:07:06 -0500
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On 5/24/2024 12:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 5/24/24 1:16 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 5/24/2024 4:03 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-05-23 17:04:49 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function in C
>>>> 00       int H(ptr p, ptr i);
>>>> 01       int D(ptr p)
>>>> 02       {
>>>> 03         int Halt_Status = H(p, p);
>>>> 04         if (Halt_Status)
>>>> 05           HERE: goto HERE;
>>>> 06         return Halt_Status;
>>>> 07       }
>>>> 08
>>>> 09       int main()
>>>> 10       {
>>>> 11         H(D,D);
>>>> 12         return 0;
>>>> 13       }
>>>>
>>>> The above template refers to an infinite set of H/D pairs where D is
>>>> correctly simulated by pure function H. This was done because many
>>>> reviewers used the shell game ploy to endlessly switch which H/D pair
>>>> was being referred to.
>>>>
>>>> *Correct Simulation Defined*
>>>>     This is provided because every reviewer had a different notion of
>>>>     correct simulation that diverges from this notion.
>>>>
>>>>     A simulator is an x86 emulator that correctly emulates at least one
>>>>     of the x86 instructions of D in the order specified by the x86
>>>>     instructions of D.
>>>>
>>>>     This may include correctly emulating the x86 instructions of H in
>>>>     the order specified by the x86 instructions of H thus calling 
>>>> H(D,D)
>>>>     in recursive simulation.
>>>>
>>>> *Execution Trace*
>>>>     Line 11: main() invokes H(D,D); H(D,D) simulates lines 01, 02, 
>>>> and 03
>>>>     of D. This invokes H(D,D) again to repeat the process in endless
>>>>     recursive simulation.
>>>
>>> One can see that D is never stuch in recursive simulation unless H is.
>>
>> Counter-factual, please try again.
> 
> No, it is a PROVEN fact, as oposed your your unsound logic that tries to 
> disprove it.
> 
> How can D(D) be stuck in "Recursive Simulation" unless the H(D,D) it 
> calls is.


When D is correctly simulated by pure function H where H eventually
halts and returns the meaningless 56 no D correctly simulated by
H ever reaches its final state at line 06 an halts
*BECAUSE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE WAS STUCK IN RECURSIVE SIMULATION*

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