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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 18:07:03 -0700
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On 2024-05-24 08:53, Andrew wrote:
> -hh wrote on Fri, 24 May 2024 10:30:57 -0400 :
> 
>>> You missed the point of having choices that Apple never gives users
>>> (mainly because there are few companies as anti-consumer as Apple is).
>> Since the rest of the Industry (well, 95%) has adopted the same design
>> choice, it really isn't as tyrannical of Apple as you're trying to make
>> it out to be.  It is more indicative of Apple appropriately identifying
>> a "where the puck is going to be".
> You're so desperate to excuse Apple's well-known anti-consumer stance that
> you brazen fabricate out of thin air that more than half is, now, only 5%?
> 
>>>> It would take
>>>> some more research to determine if these holdouts are actually still in
>>>> production (and for what market segment) or if they're now down to "New
>>>> Old Stock" that's still available for sale.
>>> Those were phones on sale at the time that the search was run.
>> I'm aware of that.  Now go back and check to see how many of those were
>> actually --> still in production <-- versus being obsolete stock that
>> was merely still available for sale.
> Those are recent figures which you hate because Apple has never supplied
> the user with basic hardware functionality that Android always enjoyed.
> 
>>> What's relevant is if you're on Android & you want an sd card or an aux
>>> jack or an FM radio, you can extremely easily find a model today with them,
>>> (since about half of Android phones sold today have one or more of them).
>> Incorrect, because your claim also means ~half have none of these
>> features too.  And what have all three?  Probably just a tiny fraction.
>>
>> Once again, you're just not being successful in identifying if any of
>> these product feature are integral to product success in the, to
>> demonstrate if Apple's disinclination towards them is "anti-consumer".
>>
>> Indeed, if they were as much of a "pro consumer"  differentiator as
>> you're trying to imply, then the fraction of Androids which featured all
>> three should be quite large.  It isn't.
> It's no longer shocking how...

....you refuse to address the points HH actually made?

You're right about that.