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On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 07:49:07 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 7/24/2025 8:43 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 7/24/2025 6:16 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>>> On 7/23/2025 8:22 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 7/23/2025 4:23 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>>>>> On 7/22/2025 8:49 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/22/2025 4:37 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/21/2025 8:42 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/20/2025 4:02 PM, Beej Jorgensen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.mcall.com/2025/07/18/luis-leon-allentown- 
>>>>>>>>> grandfather- ice- guatemala/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I feel safer already.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shouldn't we all? What's more of a threat to society than an 80 
>>>>>>> year old in this country legally with no criminal record?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes I saw that. Then again:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/off-duty-border-patrol- agent- shot- 
>>>>>>>> nyc- park/ story?id=123905115
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "the suspect, who DHS said is from the Dominican Republic, 
>>>>>>>> entered the country illegally in Arizona from Mexico in 2023..."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mora Nunez has two prior arrests for domestic violence in New 
>>>>>>>> York and has an active warrant for missing a court date on one of 
>>>>>>>> the cases."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mora Nunez is also wanted by the NYPD for a robbery in December 
>>>>>>>> 2024 and a felony assault stabbing in January 2025"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, there's more.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://5townscentral.com/2025/07/20/off-duty-federal- officer- 
>>>>>>>> shot- by- deported-felon-in-nyc-robbery-attempt/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "In addition to his immigration violations, Nunez is also wanted 
>>>>>>>> on a kidnapping warrant in Massachusetts and has a history of 
>>>>>>>> felony arrests."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Systemic failures of all sorts are regrettably common, from your 
>>>>>>>> instance above to a series of judges not holding this illegal 
>>>>>>>> career criminal with a deportation order.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see, so that makes the Luis Leon incident OK....got it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it does not.
>>>>>> As the difference between:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/ local/2025/06/25/ 
>>>>>> mississippi- executes-richard-jordan- after-nearly-50- years-on- 
>>>>>> death- row/84316151007/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://innocenceproject.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, there is no analogy there.
>>>>
>>>> There is.
>>>>
>>>> Most* citizens favor execution of vicious murderers but we are 
>>>> horrified by conviction of innocents.
>>>>
>>>> Removing illegals, as the Statutes require, is right and necessary 
>>>> and the laws are old, well analyzed through significant case law over 
>>>> many years.
>>>>
>>>> Deporting citizens is illegal wrong and deplorable.
>>>
>>> OK, I see what you meant now.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As in all human activity, there will be errors. A competent 
>>>> administration corrects them.
>>>
>>> Given that the current administration refuses to correct them, that 
>>> tells us something.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> *not all
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> I don't know that and You probably don't either.
>
>Yes, we do.
>
>> 
>> There's no clear indication so far, 
>
>yes, there is.
>
>> fabrications notwithstanding:
>> 
>> https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/07/21/dhs-sets-record-straight-ice-never- 
>> deported-medias-allentown-grandfather
>> 
>> https://thedailybeat.org/false-claim-exposed-ice-did-not-deport- 
>> american-toddler/
>> 
>> https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-viral-ice-deportation-claims-debunked/ 
>> a-73201853
>> 
>
>Sure, but that isn't the case of somone picked up by accident or counter 
>to the laws of the US.
>
>These cases are of people intentionally picked up by ICE, in the country 
>legally, and having committed no crimes:
>
>https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5217595-international-students-faculty-trump-immigration-crackdown-ice-tufts-student-detained-columbia-alabama/
>
>And the trump administration is recalcitrant at best.
>

You'd think that non-citizens who have been allowed in the country
with a visa would know enough not to make trouble. Green card holders
do not have the same rights as citizns.

--
C'est bon
Soloman