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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: D correctly simulated by pure function H cannot possibly reach
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On 5/25/2024 5:36 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 5/25/24 6:13 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 5/25/2024 4:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 5/25/24 5:29 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 5/25/2024 4:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 5/25/24 5:13 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/25/2024 4:04 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/25/24 4:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/25/2024 3:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/25/24 3:55 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/25/2024 2:23 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/25/24 2:27 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> As soon as you first hit the strawman deception 
>>>>>>>>>>>> change-the-subject
>>>>>>>>>>>> fake rebuttal I pint this pout and erase everything else 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that you say.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Thread renamed to be 100% precisely accurate*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any divergence from the subject of the thread gets 
>>>>>>>>>>>> boilerplate reply.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In other words, you refuse to accept the meaning of your 
>>>>>>>>>>> words, admitting that you plan to change them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <snip so that *Usenet Article Lookup* finds the whole message>
>>>>>>>>>> http://al.howardknight.net/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not at all. I simply utterly reject the dishonest dodge
>>>>>>>>>> of the strawman deception change-the-subject rebuttal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function in C
>>>>>>>>>> 00       int H(ptr p, ptr i);
>>>>>>>>>> 01       int D(ptr p)
>>>>>>>>>> 02       {
>>>>>>>>>> 03         int Halt_Status = H(p, p);
>>>>>>>>>> 04         if (Halt_Status)
>>>>>>>>>> 05           HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>>>>>> 06         return Halt_Status;
>>>>>>>>>> 07       }
>>>>>>>>>> 08
>>>>>>>>>> 09       int main()
>>>>>>>>>> 10       {
>>>>>>>>>> 11         H(D,D);
>>>>>>>>>> 12         return 0;
>>>>>>>>>> 13       }
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The above template refers to an infinite set of H/D pairs 
>>>>>>>>>> where D is
>>>>>>>>>> correctly simulated by pure function H. This was done because 
>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>> reviewers used the shell game ploy to endlessly switch which 
>>>>>>>>>> H/D pair
>>>>>>>>>> was being referred to.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Correct Simulation Defined*
>>>>>>>>>>     This is provided because many reviewers had a different 
>>>>>>>>>> notion of
>>>>>>>>>>     correct simulation that diverges from this notion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     A simulator is an x86 emulator that correctly emulates at 
>>>>>>>>>> least one
>>>>>>>>>>     of the x86 instructions of D in the order specified by the 
>>>>>>>>>> x86
>>>>>>>>>>     instructions of D.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     This may include correctly emulating the x86 instructions 
>>>>>>>>>> of H in the
>>>>>>>>>>     order specified by the x86 instructions of H thus calling 
>>>>>>>>>> H(D,D) in
>>>>>>>>>>     recursive simulation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Execution Trace*
>>>>>>>>>> Line 11: main() invokes H(D,D); H(D,D) simulates lines 01, 02, 
>>>>>>>>>> and 03 of
>>>>>>>>>> D. This invokes H(D,D) again to repeat the process in endless 
>>>>>>>>>> recursive
>>>>>>>>>> simulation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In other words, you refuse to accept the meaning of your words, 
>>>>>>>>> admitting that you plan to change them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not at all and you cannot show that I disagree with the above
>>>>>>>> words to the slightest trace of any degree what-so-ever.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Liar Liar Pants on fire? Will assume so until proven otherwise*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A don't say that you disagree woth them, 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>> In other words, you refuse to accept the meaning of your words,
>>>>>> YES YOU DID, LOOK AT YOUR OWN WORDS ABOVE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I accept that you want to use your stipulated definition of the 
>>>>> words, 
>>>>
>>>> Then why the Hell did you say otherwise?
>>>> Then why the Hell did you say otherwise?
>>>> Then why the Hell did you say otherwise?
>>>> Then why the Hell did you say otherwise?
>>>> Then why the Hell did you say otherwise?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you not read what I wrote?
>>>
>>> You need to agree to the implications of those definitions before we 
>>> can go on.
>>>
>>
>> You have proven that you do not have the basis to move beyond the
>> subject line of this post. I am unwilling to entertain your baseless
>> assertions.
>>
> 

We can get to the next point ONLY AFTER WE FINISH THIS POINT.
I am no longer willing to tolerate your baseless assertions.
ONLY AFTER WE HAVE THIS POINT AS A BASIS CAN WE PROCEED.


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