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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic
Subject: Re: D correctly simulated by pure function H cannot possibly reach
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Date: Sat, 25 May 2024 22:19:57 -0400
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On 5/25/24 10:16 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 5/25/2024 9:06 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 5/25/24 9:47 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 5/25/2024 8:23 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 5/25/24 8:45 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 5/25/2024 6:40 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/25/24 7:23 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/25/2024 6:14 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/25/24 7:11 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/25/2024 5:59 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/25/24 6:53 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> *We can get to that ONLY WHEN WE HAVE THE ABOVE SUBJECT AS A 
>>>>>>>>>>> BASIS*
>>>>>>>>>>> *We can get to that ONLY WHEN WE HAVE THE ABOVE SUBJECT AS A 
>>>>>>>>>>> BASIS*
>>>>>>>>>>> *We can get to that ONLY WHEN WE HAVE THE ABOVE SUBJECT AS A 
>>>>>>>>>>> BASIS*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No we need to handle them to know what you have defined.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After all, if we don't agree on the inmplications, we don't 
>>>>>>>>>> have agreement on what is being stipuated as the defintions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Thus trolling me is made impotent*
>>>>>>>>>>> *Thus trolling me is made impotent*
>>>>>>>>>>> *Thus trolling me is made impotent*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They are not "Baseless" but based on the actual definitions of 
>>>>>>>>>> the terms that you are changing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *In other words you can show in a convincing way that this is 
>>>>>>>>> false*
>>>>>>>>> *In other words you can show in a convincing way that this is 
>>>>>>>>> false*
>>>>>>>>> *In other words you can show in a convincing way that this is 
>>>>>>>>> false*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Didn't say that, which shows you to be a liar, or at least being 
>>>>>>>> deceptive, which is why we need to handle the implications first
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Note, you are just proving that you don't understand how logic 
>>>>>>>> works)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The implications of your specifications are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) That your H is NOT a computation equivalent for a Turing 
>>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OFF TOPIC UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE THE BASIS OF THE SUBJECT LINE OF 
>>>>>>> THIS POST
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, necessary condition to talk, about the subject line.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I CAN PROVE MY POINT IN FIVE STEPS YOU CANNOT SKIP STEP ONE
>>>>> STEP TWO DEPENDS ON STEP ONE, LIKEWISE DOWN TO STEP FIVE.
>>>>>
>>>>> I CAN PROVE MY POINT IN FIVE STEPS YOU CANNOT SKIP STEP ONE
>>>>> STEP TWO DEPENDS ON STEP ONE, LIKEWISE DOWN TO STEP FIVE.
>>>>>
>>>>> I CAN PROVE MY POINT IN FIVE STEPS YOU CANNOT SKIP STEP ONE
>>>>> STEP TWO DEPENDS ON STEP ONE, LIKEWISE DOWN TO STEP FIVE.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then DO so, you will need to do it without agreement on the steps 
>>>
>>> When we have endless deflection on step one five more steps are not
>>> going to help. It turns out that there are six steps.
>>
>> It isn't a deflection to fully define and understand the implications 
>> of your definitions.
>>
>>>
>>> When you tried to point out an error on step one it was merely a false
>>> assumption on your part. This is way better than you simply lied.
>>
>> No, it was that you hadn't actually DEFINED your rule.
>>
>>>
>>> That you have not even tried to point out any error on step one is
>>> TAKEN AS YOU GOT NOTHING.
>>
>> Except that I have pointed out the errors in what you THINK you mean.
>>
>> If you accept my implications, just say so.
>>
>> If you don't then it needs to be handled NOW bef
>>
>>>
>>> I have told my close friends about you. The one good part is that
>>> your reviews greatly improved the quality of my words. I told them
>>> that too.
>>>
>>> TRY AND PROVE THAT YOU ARE MORE THAN A MERE TROLL AND SHOW
>>> AN ERROR WITH STEP ONE OR ADMIT THAT YOU CANNOT SEE ANY ERROR.
>>
>> I haven't spent time thinking about the statement enough to make a 
>> stateent one way of the other, because I see it as pointless until the 
>> definitions are agreed to.
>>
>> I will point out again, that your form of proof is just invalid, as it 
>> doesn't matter who agrees with your statement as likely true, it is 
>> can you actually prove it.
>>
>> At best, if people are honest, they might be able to say that you 
>> statement "seems" true, and they can't think of a problem with it. But 
>> that isn't PROOF. I suspect that when we get to the point when I will 
>> speak, it will either be a counter example or a statement that I find 
>> no counter example with a basic search. Lack of evidence of a counter 
>> example is not evidence of the non-existance of a counter-example, so 
>> you will have no proof, at best you might have a thesis.
>>
> 
> void Infinite_Recursion(u32 N)
> {
>    Infinite_Recursion(N);
> }
> 
> Right and the above might not actually be {infinite recursion}
> it might really be a dead bird in a bush.
> 

Red Herring.

I thought you said you were avoiding strawmen, so Why are you making 
them yourself.

I guess you are just proving you are just a Hypocrite, as well as a 
pathological liar.