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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: "The first Copilot+ PC has been tested and it destroys the MacBook" Date: Sun, 26 May 2024 08:44:38 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <v2varm$3dkln$1@dont-email.me> References: <a6rv4jps6ntipe5ftkv5cclic24f9gq2qr@4ax.com> <lbae06FaposU1@mid.individual.net> <v2pv3d$2ae8o$3@dont-email.me> <b0945jdpueb3oue0f9mslhkn6p2ooa8sdk@4ax.com> <v2todb$32822$11@dont-email.me> <v2v8ua$3daer$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 26 May 2024 14:44:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="57712345579c7c8f633cac844f3c67ff"; logging-data="3592887"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/XsOOG63GLt9ETzSO9qztdAR98HqLER/A=" User-Agent: Betterbird (Windows) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ho+YU1YLhnQAbZhn6dHSgyIoteE= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v2v8ua$3daer$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3286 On 2024-05-26 8:11 a.m., RonB wrote: > On 2024-05-25, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >> On 2024-05-25 1:58 p.m., chrisv wrote: >>> Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>> >>>> As an end-user, it should be the same to me. However, even I think that >>>> x86-64 needs to go. Considering how far they are able to go with ARM in >>>> terms of extending battery life, cutting power consumption and removing >>>> the need for cooling, it only makes sense. It should especially be of >>>> interest to hippies if they are truly concerned about society's general >>>> energy usage. >>> >>> I think that with x86-64 going to the big.little architecture, it >>> should remain competitive in the power department. In general use, >>> the efficient cores will doing almost all the work. >> >> The x86-64 architecture isn't going anywhere because Intel and AMD have >> invested too heavily into it. Its demise will come when people stop >> considering chips by those two companies. That will only happen when the >> disadvantages of using processors by either corporation become too >> obvious to ignore. > > According to links rbowman posted, Intel will be producing ARM chips and, I > think, AMD has worked out some kind of deal with nVidia to produce ARM > chips. They will produce them, but I doubt that they will focus entirely on that. Like I said, they've already invested so much into producing the x86-64 chips that even if they were to decide to focus on ARM development, they wouldn't just abandon it. I see no long-term future for x86-64 myself, mostly because it truly can't compete with something that doesn't have all of the archaic code bogging it down. However, a lot of companies probably need a chip which will run their ancient software. Unless the emulation offered on ARM is stellar - and I'm sure it will be - people will want the older architecture. -- Andrzej (Andre) Matuch TG: @AndrzejMatuch Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.