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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: "The first Copilot+ PC has been tested and it destroys the MacBook" Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 01:59:49 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <v30pel$3r1i7$2@dont-email.me> References: <a6rv4jps6ntipe5ftkv5cclic24f9gq2qr@4ax.com> <lbae06FaposU1@mid.individual.net> <v2pv3d$2ae8o$3@dont-email.me> <b0945jdpueb3oue0f9mslhkn6p2ooa8sdk@4ax.com> <v2todb$32822$11@dont-email.me> <v2v8ua$3daer$2@dont-email.me> <v2varm$3dkln$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 03:59:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="efde001c83c8d9d2ae479a225202d4e6"; logging-data="4032071"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19CsGYtwwmvfEy3Hf3zZIyD" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MjjWaqO+FGMc1Zmlo09l/hQOVTo= Bytes: 3576 On 2024-05-26, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > On 2024-05-26 8:11 a.m., RonB wrote: >> On 2024-05-25, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >>> On 2024-05-25 1:58 p.m., chrisv wrote: >>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>>> >>>>> As an end-user, it should be the same to me. However, even I think that >>>>> x86-64 needs to go. Considering how far they are able to go with ARM in >>>>> terms of extending battery life, cutting power consumption and removing >>>>> the need for cooling, it only makes sense. It should especially be of >>>>> interest to hippies if they are truly concerned about society's general >>>>> energy usage. >>>> >>>> I think that with x86-64 going to the big.little architecture, it >>>> should remain competitive in the power department. In general use, >>>> the efficient cores will doing almost all the work. >>> >>> The x86-64 architecture isn't going anywhere because Intel and AMD have >>> invested too heavily into it. Its demise will come when people stop >>> considering chips by those two companies. That will only happen when the >>> disadvantages of using processors by either corporation become too >>> obvious to ignore. >> >> According to links rbowman posted, Intel will be producing ARM chips and, I >> think, AMD has worked out some kind of deal with nVidia to produce ARM >> chips. > > They will produce them, but I doubt that they will focus entirely on > that. Like I said, they've already invested so much into producing the > x86-64 chips that even if they were to decide to focus on ARM > development, they wouldn't just abandon it. I see no long-term future > for x86-64 myself, mostly because it truly can't compete with something > that doesn't have all of the archaic code bogging it down. However, a > lot of companies probably need a chip which will run their ancient > software. Unless the emulation offered on ARM is stellar - and I'm sure > it will be - people will want the older architecture. I agree they'll produce both. "Ancient software" — until now? You know me, I'll take "trailing edge" over "cutting edge" just about any time. What I've got works. -- [Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality." "It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine