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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: OT: The "vaccine" that just keeps on giving. Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 12:17:46 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 52 Message-ID: <v31tla$12rc$1@dont-email.me> References: <v2tmrv$327ft$1@dont-email.me> <66535b29$0$6550$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <v2vmv3$3fc8e$4@dont-email.me> <v301su$3geq3$2@dont-email.me> <v31rii$mni$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 14:17:47 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="efde001c83c8d9d2ae479a225202d4e6"; logging-data="35692"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18qgi8qN9l+o5m+RHEjeuSC" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9Mzh1ft+lxaliNcfl6LV//LPwx0= Bytes: 3658 On 2024-05-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > On 2024-05-26 3:17 p.m., vallor wrote: >> On Sun, 26 May 2024 12:11:14 -0400, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote >> in <v2vmv3$3fc8e$4@dont-email.me>: >> >>> On 2024-05-26 11:54 a.m., DFS wrote: >>>> On 5/25/2024 5:57 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>>>> That's how you know it works. >>>>> >>>>> <https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-30-year-old-pga-golfer-dies-after-suddenly-pulling-out-of-tournament-due-to-illness> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Grayson Murray's parents confirm he 'took his own life'" >>> >>> Then I wonder what the illness was. It's a sad thing to see such a young >>> man condemn himself to Hell through suicide. >> >> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism. >> >> You should consider why you would think such a hateful thing, >> and if you're honest with yourself, be ashamed. > > Catholic teaching is clear about the consequences of suicide or > euthanasia. I also don't believe that the people who advocate for > abortion and simultaneously think that euthanasia or suicide is neat > have any kind of grasp on morality. But Catholicism also teaches us not to judge whether someone is damned or not — that's up to God. For a sin to be mortal it requires that it be a grave matter (check), with full knowledge and deliberate consent. Grayson Murray was a Christian, but I don't know if he was Catholic (and even if he was Catholic, Vatican II Catholicism does a terrible job of teaching the doctrines of the Faith now). It's questionable whether he had full knowledge and deliberately consented to what he might not have known was a mortal sin. And, if he suffered mental health issues, it's questionable whether he was even able to give deliberate consent with full knowledge. If you have mental health issues you're probably not going to be able to think clearly about the consequences of your actions. I would definitely pray for his soul. God is not a legalistic Pharisee. As for the "damnation doctrine" being "spiritual terrorism," it's actually not. It's how people become cognizant to the fact that there are consequences for their evil actions. Without justice there can be no mercy. And mercy is not hard to obtain. It does require humility, however. The cardinal sin of Satan was pride. -- [Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality." "It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine