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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: How will the police find me. Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 10:33:27 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <v34btn$i9bt$1@dont-email.me> References: <9r9l4j1dauquc3vrg6bghhp6cerpsq01a9@4ax.com> <v2eaoe$3p5bi$1@dont-email.me> <0ckl4jl3efgequrtb68ed09gmrenl0q8bv@4ax.com> <v2g5b1$4h19$1@dont-email.me> <v2ga5f$5b0i$1@dont-email.me> <v2gfnm$2f5k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <eh4t4jhh4gaj3pittannlqeseb3l1c31ql@4ax.com> <v2m89s$2aer$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v2stgn$2tq6u$1@dont-email.me> <v2t175$1e9$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <pyadndEKTvDjh8_7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <v2tunu$ef0$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <eiCdnWl-DL0mDs_7nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> <v2ukfg$1d76$2@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 12:33:27 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="de832343737558e19b075a6c5f657243"; logging-data="599421"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/ZGRiUKW42FheBm1Ez7Z2rYmhlECBOu7U=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cIxNe45mxHGztjAjZDGMz5dE0z0= sha1:md4zBka3aY+F0EhF1cbEma+Lk5w= Bytes: 3059 Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote: > badí ˝í˛˝sector wrote on Sat, 25 May 2024 21:43:23 -0400 : > >> In order to have any meaningful correlation between cell phones in cars >> and their effect on accidents one would have to know how many of those >> cell phones were in use while driving and also the accident rate in >> those cars as compared to the others. Without this in the case of >> cell-phone correlation the supplied study provides just irrelevant >> statistical noise. > > You bring up a point that we discussed in gory detail in the past, which is > that nobody knows much about the actual usage rate of cellphones. We all > know people use them; but we have no reliable data on how much they're > used. > > I covered this in gory detail where the NHTSA reports every May of every > year (as I recall) on cellphone *usage* rates; but - get this - they > calculate that at red lights. Yes. Red lights. They hvae a person sitting > on the side peering into vehicles to note how many people are using them. > > Clearly this is a flawed statistic Flawed how? > Again, this was covered in gory detail in the past, the point being that > the most *reliable* statistic we have is the accident rate (which is number > of accidents normalized by the number of miles driven). Why is it reliable? It's obvious that not all accidents are ever captured. Fender benders where no-one is hurt nor involves police nor is reported to insurance, for example.