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From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
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Subject: Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ###
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On 2024-05-28 14:37:15 +0000, olcott said:

> On 5/28/2024 2:17 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2024-05-27 13:52:09 +0000, olcott said:
>> 
>>> On 5/27/2024 3:11 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2024-05-26 16:50:21 +0000, olcott said:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> <snip>
>>> So that: *Usenet Article Lookup*
>>> http://al.howardknight.net/
>>> can see the whole message now that
>>> *the Thai spammer killed Google Groups*
>>> 
>>> typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function in C
>>> 00       int H(ptr p, ptr i);
>>> 01       int D(ptr p)
>>> 02       {
>>> 03         int Halt_Status = H(p, p);
>>> 04         if (Halt_Status)
>>> 05           HERE: goto HERE;
>>> 06         return Halt_Status;
>>> 07       }
>>> 08
>>> 09       int main()
>>> 10       {
>>> 11         H(D,D);
>>> 12         return 0;
>>> 13       }
>>> 
>>>>> When we see that D correctly simulated by pure simulator H would remain
>>>>> stuck in recursive simulation then we also know that D never reaches its
>>>>> own line 06 and halts in less than an infinite number of correctly
>>>>> simulated steps.
>>>> 
>>>> Which means that H never terminates. You said that by your definition
>>>> a function that never terminates is not a pure function. Therefore
>>>> H, if it exists, is not a pure function, and the phrase "pure function
>>>> H" does not denote.
>>> 
>>> *I should have said that more clearly*
>>> *That is why I need reviewers*
>> 
>> What is said here has little significance. You should ask reviewer's
>> comments about your working draft that you maintain in GitHub or some
>> other web site. And you should update that draft when a reviewer finds
>> some something wrong or unclear.
>> 
>>> *This is STEP ONE of my four step proof*
>>> STEP TWO applies these same ideas to the Peter Linz HP proof.
>>> STEP THREE shows how the Linz Ĥ.H sees the behavior of its recursive
>>>       simulations.
>>> STEP FOUR shows why the behavior of the INPUT is the correct basis.
>> 
>> When discussing individual steps of a proof draft you shold start
>> at the last step.
> 
> I have been at this for twenty years.
> Ben Bacarisse has spoken with me for 15 of those years.
> 
> What I found out is that exactly one point of one step
> must be pursued until complete closure of that one point
> of that one step.

How long do you think it takes to cover them all, starting
from the first?

How long do you think it would take, starting from the last?

-- 
Mikko