Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: xxd -i vs DIY Was: C23 thoughts and opinions
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 19:27:51 +0200
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 27
Message-ID: <v37oin$17uaq$1@dont-email.me>
References: <v2l828$18v7f$1@dont-email.me>
 <00297443-2fee-48d4-81a0-9ff6ae6481e4@gmail.com>
 <v2lji1$1bbcp$1@dont-email.me> <87msoh5uh6.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
 <f08d2c9f-5c2e-495d-b0bd-3f71bd301432@gmail.com>
 <v2nbp4$1o9h6$1@dont-email.me> <v2ng4n$1p3o2$1@dont-email.me>
 <87y18047jk.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
 <87msoe1xxo.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <v2sh19$2rle2$2@dont-email.me>
 <87ikz11osy.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <v2v59g$3cr0f$1@dont-email.me>
 <20240528144118.00002012@yahoo.com> <v34odg$kh7a$1@dont-email.me>
 <20240528185624.00002494@yahoo.com> <v359f1$nknu$1@dont-email.me>
 <20240528232315.00006a58@yahoo.com> <v35qrg$qhnf$1@dont-email.me>
 <v36p6t$12k77$1@dont-email.me> <20240529130818.000070bf@yahoo.com>
 <v375v6$14n4i$1@dont-email.me> <v37l0s$17712$3@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 19:27:51 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="763ab83a6ce2cbcea8e68ae5995651d8";
	logging-data="1309018"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX199Yj/sO+UFFzZG/2AOgDtFg+HUNB3pO0E="
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:FcTSC8GrZdQlwEfqG4dBHIsoXZE=
In-Reply-To: <v37l0s$17712$3@dont-email.me>
Content-Language: en-GB
Bytes: 3201

On 29/05/2024 18:27, Malcolm McLean wrote:
> On 29/05/2024 13:10, David Brown wrote:
>>
>> It wasn't the cheapest available, and 64 GB memory (and 4 TB SSD) 
>> don't come free.  (And I buy these bare-bones.  Machines with Windows 
>> "pre-installed" are often cheaper because they are sponsored by the 
>> junk-ware and ad-ware forced on unsuspecting users.)
>>
> Yes, I got a job at Cambridge which didn't work out (Cantab dons, much
> less tolerant people then their counterparts at another university, but
> that's another story). And I was given a brand new Windows machine, and
> told that we had to use Linux. So I installed a Linux version which ran
> on top of Windows. No good, I was told. Might cause problems with that 
> "interesting" set up. So I had to scrub a brand new version of Windows. 
> It felt like the most extravagant waste.
> 

While I prefer to get machines without an OS, I can't see any issue with 
wiping existing Windows - I've done that countless times.  When you buy 
a machine with Windows "pre-installed", no one has paid more than a 
handful of dollars/pounds/kroner for it.  Indeed, the crap-ware vendors 
might have sponsored it, and I don't mind if their money was wasted.

Even for a Windows machine, I often prefer to install Windows myself 
from scratch.  The exception is for laptops where it is often a pain to 
get all the drivers like.