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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly halt --- templates and
 infinite sets
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 13:08:50 -0500
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On 5/29/2024 12:08 PM, Mike Terry wrote:
> On 29/05/2024 17:17, olcott wrote:
>> On 5/29/2024 10:40 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>>>
>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> [ .... ]
>>>
>>>> Everyone that knows the truth knows that I am correct and you are 
>>>> wrong.
>>>> There is NO correct reasoning that can possibly show that I am wrong.
>>>
>>> Everybody here, bar one person, knows you are wrong.
>>>
>>
>> *Most everyone here believes that I am wrong at least somewhere*
>>
>> When we go over what I am saying point by point and thus do not
>> allow the *strawman deception CHANGE-THE-SUBJECT fake rebuttal*
>> no one here have provided complete and correct reasoning that I
>> am wrong on any one point.
>>
>> The point of this post is {templates and infinite sets}
>>
>> *Formalizing the Linz Proof structure*
>> ∃H  ∈ Turing_Machines
>> ∀x  ∈ Turing_Machines_Descriptions
>> ∀y  ∈ Finite_Strings
>> such that H(x,y) = Halts(x,y)
>>
>> *Here is the same sort of template to H/D pairs*
>> ∃H ∈ C_Functions
>> ∀D ∈ x86_Machine_Code_of_C_Functions
>> such that H(D,D) = Halts(D,D)
>>
>>
>>>> Mike Terry would know that I am correct. Ben might not understand
>>>> quantification. Ben did verify this encoding:
>>>
>>> How about a bit of respect?  Mike specifically asked you not to cite his
>>> name as a back up for your points.  Why do you keep doing it?
>>
>> I did not read it that way.
>> I read that he said that I often respond to specific reviewers by name.
>>
> 
> My points were :
> -   you refer to comments by reviewers (both here and elsewhere), often
>      out of context, as an APPEAL TO AUTHORITY - i.e. in an attempt to
>      shut down an ongoing discussion which you are incapable of arguing
>      yourself.
>      [I'm not suggesting I am any kind of "authority" here!.]
> 
> -   you often /misrepresent/ reviewers position, because you lack the
>      ability to understand what reviewers actually mean when they make
>      a point to you.
> 
> -   you should argue your own case in your own words.
> 
> Mike.

Whenever I do quote someone I have always provided the time/date
stamp so that the complete context can be easily seen.

I also now add the unique Message-ID since the Thai spammer
has forced Goggle Groups to shut down.

Message-ID: <rLmcnQQ3-N_tvH_4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
On 3/1/2024 12:41 PM, Mike Terry wrote:
 >
 > Obviously a simulator has access to the internal state
 > (tape contents etc.) of the simulated machine. No problem there.

I waited for two years for someone to confirm this key element
of my proof.

-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer