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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Distorted Sine Wave Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 22:11:47 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <v38973$1atf2$1@dont-email.me> References: <v37ncd$17q1d$1@dont-email.me> <nnd$1540c445$35e5ece6@6a11785c39b8fb50> <vi4f5jlua68idhefpgddthl2q08luvtqqg@4ax.com> <v384cn$1a1og$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 00:11:47 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="911b746829b58010afd4e308b69077fe"; logging-data="1406434"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX187bDCsCC1FgVsriGOodgSX" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:uMHKOW/YmxipH9KplnlAbox4O90= sha1:HtmqbfS6TINq8fQmC6y6Jz7+5FI= Bytes: 2764 Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 29 May 2024 13:42:13 -0700, john larkin wrote: > >> On Wed, 29 May 2024 21:43:54 +0200, Arie de Muijnck <noreply@ademu.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 2024-05-29 19:07, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>>> Gentlemen, >>>> >>>> Whilst fault-finding on my HP 8566B spectrum analyzer, I've found the >>>> 10Mhz reference oscillator is generating an 'unsatisfactory waveform' >>>> which may be causing the device to be unable to lock it's main PLL. >>>> I've come across this waveshape before, but mostly with oscillators I >>>> was building and in the process of trying to iron out the wrinkles of >>>> and certainly NOT a critical reference oscillator from a respected >>>> manufacturer. Can anyone tell what's most likely going on here? >>>> >>>> https://disk.yandex.com/i/z6fYbeVfPRK7aA >>> >>> >>> Looks like reflections in the cable. Try the 50 Ohm termination. >>> >>> Arie >> >> If the drive is a sine wave, a cable can't generate that 2nd harmonic. > > I don't understand how a reflection can account for it either. THe cable's > only 4' long! However, with the 50 ohm input enabled, the 2nd harmonic > disappears. It's just one of those inexplicable mysteries that no one > knows the answer to. :) That’s pretty diagnostic. There must be an LC filter on the output—mis-terminating it will cause all sorts of frequency-response whoopdedoos. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics