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From: Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: xxd -i vs DIY Was: C23 thoughts and opinions
Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 02:31:42 +0100
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On 30/05/2024 01:18, bart wrote:
> On 29/05/2024 22:46, Malcolm McLean wrote:
>> On 29/05/2024 20:59, Michael S wrote:
>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 14:07:00 -0400
>>> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/05/2024 18:27, Malcolm McLean wrote:
>>>>> On 29/05/2024 13:10, David Brown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It wasn't the cheapest available, and 64 GB memory (and 4 TB SSD)
>>>>>> don't come free.  (And I buy these bare-bones.  Machines with
>>>>>> Windows "pre-installed" are often cheaper because they are
>>>>>> sponsored by the junk-ware and ad-ware forced on unsuspecting
>>>>>> users.)
>>>>> Yes, I got a job at Cambridge which didn't work out (Cantab dons,
>>>>> much less tolerant people then their counterparts at another
>>>>> university, but that's another story). And I was given a brand new
>>>>> Windows machine, and told that we had to use Linux. So I installed
>>>>> a Linux version which ran on top of Windows. No good, I was told.
>>>>> Might cause problems with that "interesting" set up. ...
>>>>
>>>> They're quite right in that regard, as I can testify from personal
>>>> experience.
>>>>
>>>>> ... So I had to scrub a brand new version of Windows.
>>>>> It felt like the most extravagant waste.
>>>>
>>>> Keep in mind that, as David pointed out, the "waste" was probably
>>>> negative. You got a better price on the machine than you would have
>>>> otherwise, and erasing that malware gave you more space to put useful
>>>> stuff on your machine.
>>>
>>> May be, for laptps that is true. But for mini-PCs it is very different.
>>> Windows is surprisingly expensive in this case. OEM license is sold for
>>> ~75% of retail license price.
>>>
>> Exactly. Windows costs a fortune.
> 
> Actually I've no idea how much it costs.
> 
> But whatever it is, I'm not adverse to the idea of having to pay for 
> software. After all you have to pay for hardware, and for computers, I 
> would happily pay extra to have something that works out of the box.
> 
>> And Microsoft spend billions developing it.
>>
>> Baby X can't compete.
> 
> Huh? I didn't know Baby X was an OS!
> 
> 
Its an API. You call the Baby X API to get buttons and menus and other 
graphical elements, instead of Windows APIs. And it has just got its own 
file system.



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