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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Riding after heavy manual labor Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 13:35:39 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <v3addb$1pibl$2@dont-email.me> References: <v22tus$112b0$1@dont-email.me> <Sx91O.142$JW17.90@fx12.iad> <v23r8c$1b4fo$1@dont-email.me> <ucp1O.3$M8K4.0@fx03.iad> <v25kce$1n7u9$2@dont-email.me> <3lt1O.137$PQPa.75@fx11.iad> <UrM1O.16$pIPf.8@fx43.iad> <v297n9$2k295$1@dont-email.me> <CLI2O.18171$lp3b.11181@fx14.iad> <v2g7hq$4t91$1@dont-email.me> <q59n4jlmp2soq0dge1plsli4i9ukcokb34@4ax.com> <gH23O.986$EkJ4.894@fx14.iad> <acep4jdkf54vl2cj7m9p0pns6jnfof9vvs@4ax.com> <oL65O.41283$HBac.1016@fx15.iad> <i71a5j50hfjt77spkiv65ifth9vusjvkf3@4ax.com> <v336hd$8qgh$2@dont-email.me> <r6m5O.73879$vAv6.52068@fx18.iad> <v34rkq$l0pn$1@dont-email.me> <v34sqa$iqvq$3@dont-email.me> <0Tq5O.6565$zHo8.4124@fx47.iad> <v365nf$vpq9$2@dont-email.me> <v3780n$14v1d$1@dont-email.me> <q6J5O.99011$5dk1.75854@fx10.iad> <v37muc$17o3h$1@dont-email.me> <h9L5O.2$rf47.0@fx39.iad> <v38so4$1hej6$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 19:35:40 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fafa51006f583d0dc42e09b26410d9a7"; logging-data="1886581"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+zt2LYaTJJ6y2M6stu41XXQWMY5SpnIgg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:D6LAR71UxD/bIm/xTlp0s6IQCdE= In-Reply-To: <v38so4$1hej6$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3663 On 5/29/2024 11:45 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: > On 5/29/2024 3:15 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: >> On Wed May 29 11:59:56 2024 AMuzi wrote: >>> >>> I trust Mr Krygowski understands permanent deformation in >>> steel tube as well as you or I and probably better. >>> >>> Your tube was either deformed or it was not. >>> >> Andrew, I think that you're giving Frank too much credit. Why do you >> suppose a spring, compresseed returns to its orgininal size and shape? >> This is pertinent to your cited article on permanent deformation >> requiring a very conplete movement in the layers of the crystal >> structure of the medal. >> >> Steel frames move ALL of the time and like a spring return to their >> original shape. There is a point between perfect elasticity and a real >> dent in which external forces can return the metal to its original >> shape. And that is all that happened. As I arrived back from a ride I >> came to a complete stop and as I tried to dismount, lost my balance >> and fell down. The seat stay was permanently dented and so still is. >> The top tube which is much higher grade steel slightly deformed. >> Riding this over the cobble like roads around here caused that "almost >> a dent" to pop out again. > > That is absolute, total blathering nonsense. > > I know a detailed explanation would be wasting my time. Nobody here > believes Tom's ludicrous tale of a dented top tube spontaneously curing > itself. I doubt even Tom believes it. > > We don't need an explanation of metallurgy, metallic bonds, slip planes, > metallic yielding or anything of the sort. We need a psychological > explanation for Tom's weird motivations. ignorance, arrogance, narcissism, and excessive alcohol consumption. > -- Add xx to reply