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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Do =?UTF-8?Q?Microsoft=E2=80=99s?= Copilot+ PCs Require Linux? Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 04:31:13 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 62 Message-ID: <v3bjqh$239s2$1@dont-email.me> References: <v2k7km$12v2d$1@dont-email.me> <lZKdnTjxE6Cwl9P7nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@supernews.com> <664e55ed$0$8491$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <x9GdnREA8JPw9dP7nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@supernews.com> <qnbu4j1li5mgjm6gm0l5o3kvku94179t9u@4ax.com> <QNWdnbsVQuRa29L7nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@supernews.com> <66524006$0$1258327$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <v2u28m$33nmn$13@dont-email.me> <6652ae90$0$7183$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <v2uocg$3ajrn$4@dont-email.me> <66534360$0$6557$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <v30g73$3lhel$4@dont-email.me> <lbi9f6Fhd3pU1@mid.individual.net> <v30t17$3k86l$4@dont-email.me> <lbinqpFj5p4U2@mid.individual.net> <v31bo3$3scv5$1@dont-email.me> <665489c7$0$7182$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <v3252c$2uku$1@dont-email.me> <6655dd49$0$7068$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <6Ip5O.49637$In22.7454@fx11.iad> <v374m5$14ft0$1@dont-email.me> <A%J5O.2074$fBCb.866@fx11.iad> <v39o4v$1lipm$7@dont-email.me> <_G_5O.631$RsQ5.158@fx42.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 06:31:13 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e277b9cb7c286d186849e5f08f72231a"; logging-data="2205570"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+b444x856OF61D9b8FfQnk" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4BXBVaKPXOOws0clnp/VMiJ9lT8= Bytes: 5051 On 2024-05-30, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > On 2024-05-30 7:32 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >> >>> On 2024-05-29 7:48 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >>>> >>>>> On 2024-05-28 9:34 a.m., DFS wrote: >>>>>> On 5/27/2024 10:24 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>>>>>> On 2024-05-27 9:25 a.m., DFS wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm sure that all Linux companies are in tears at the knowledge that >>>>>>> you won't buy from them. >>>>>> >>>>>> I engage in psychological warfare. I log to Linux sites like System76, >>>>>> load up a cart with 4 maxed-out systems... then leave. It kills them! >>>>> >>>>> If you bought a machine which was designed to run Linux, rather than >>>>> install Linux on a machine that originally came with Windows, you might >>>>> actually enjoy it. I know that I was a big fan of Linux on my >>>>> AMD-powered Dell laptop back in 2007-2009. I only stopped using Linux >>>>> because that laptop eventually died, and I replaced it with a Sony Vaio >>>>> which didn't seem to like the operating system at all. >>>> >>>> My Lenovo Flex 14 works great with Linux. The first thing I did after >>>> I bought it was slick Windows from it. >>>> >>>> I've installed Linux on a single-core Acer (it ran Solidworks in a Windows >>>> VM surprisingly well), a couple of Toshiba laptops, a number of Dell laptops, >>>> a no-name laptop that came with Windows NT (Red Hat wouldn't work, a bug in K6 >>>> support, but that gave me the impetus to master Debian), an Asus "gaming" >>>> laptop (it's now my desktop/server, always on), various name-brand and no-name >>>> desktop boxes.... >>>> >>>> The Linuxen? Red Hat (the original); Debian Sid; Gentoo; Ubuntu; and Arch. >>>> >>>> The main issues I encountered early in my Linux career involved needing to >>>> build Intel wireless drivers. >>> >>> For me, there is a greater chance that Linux will run fine on a machine >>> built for Windows than there is that Windows will run fine on a machine >>> built for Linux. >> >> The hardware comes first. The OS adapts to it (or the hardware developers >> write the OS-specific drivers for it.) > > Generally, I wouldn't be worried that drivers for the hardware used on > Linux-minded laptops would be available. However, I wouldn't be > surprised if I faced the same kind of issues using Windows on a Linux > machine that I had using Linux on a Windows machine. Problems waking > from sleep, graphical errors and things of the sort are very likely to > happen. I don't think that's going to be a problem. "Linux computers" are just standard computers that use components that are well-supported by Linux. (Like Intel WiFi cards vs Broadcom WiFi cards, for example.) Of course the component manufacturers are going to support Windows on their hardware. -- [Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality." "It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine