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Chabahar project is now confirmed continuing regardless, plus an 
additional airport is being constructed there also. So China needs more 
than just the Pakestan-Afghanestan-Russia route. It is safer also to 
have more than one "silk road".

There were some route options for the ancient Silk Road as well.

I bet Raisi and Amirabdollahian both knew of that, thus their measures 
were not that anti-Iranian after all. They probably knew they could 
share the opportunities with Saudis and Pakestanis and Afghanis instead 
of getting all that for themselves (what China wanted all along).

This reduces the chances that their crash was planned. So either it was 
the work of some business Capones internal to Iran (their numbers are 
increasing) who wanted it all and weren't willing to share such once in 
a lifetime opportunities with other nations in the region, or the 
downward mountain drift really only affected the middle helicopter, 
somehow. Sudden formation of fog areas indicates such drifts to begin 
with. Cold air pours down (right after passing over the mountains - as 
studied even in high schools) and creates tiny water droplets lower 
down. I don't know how uniform or chaotic such downward drifts can be, 
so cannot make any reasonable comment on that possibility.

It must be dependent on the shape of the mountains and wind speed, so it 
can be studied if wind speed data is available. They can make a model of 
those mountains where the crash occurred, and flow evaporated cold 
nitrogen steam over them in various directions and see how wide or 
narrow the resulting bulk downward motion of the air can be, and how 
they compare with the distances between the three helicopters.

The conversations with the only remaining passenger that lived a couple 
of hours after crash and answered to a mobile phone that rang beside him 
(it was not his) shows that he had not become aware of something going 
wrong inside the helicopter during the seconds before crash, and knew 
nothing about the crash to begin with. He'd just come to, finding 
himself on the ground between the trees and bushes, seriously injured. 
But he may have been dosing off before the crash, or the sabotage was 
limited to the area where pilots were, and by the time crash occurred 
nobody other than pilots had become aware of some sort of sabotage 
having been planned and carried out.

I wonder why such helicopters do not always have a Black Box so the 
possible conversations between the pilots could be heard to help 
determine the nature of the crash. Some Bell 212 have those, but I 
haven't seen a single word pointing to it in this crash. The cockpit 
voice recorder or a flight data recorder are "options" for this model. 
Ridiculous. Especially for a Presidential copter.

Some speculate on copter being overweight also, which doesn't make 
sense, as that helicopter could lift 5 metric tons of people and 
equipment, way more than was needed for 8 persons traveling light.

There are other possibilities as well of course. Negligence is one. The 
main pilot may have noticed an issue in the navigation instruments of 
the copter early on, and decided to continue just by relying on visually 
following that formation with the front one, and when they entered the 
fog forming on their paths he lost that option and could only increase 
elevation in a blind flight and thus hit the mountain despite that 
effort. This is a possibility. But again, who knows.

Other forms of negligence are possible also. The repair crew of the 
helicopter, in their routine inspections may have just filled out forms 
to make their jobs faster and easier, especially when trips were 
relatively short and frequent. Such old helicopters should be prone to 
mechanical failures. Iranians have gotten pretty good in building 
helicopters. Was this one the best they could offer to carry the 
President?... There are some thirty different helicopters that Iran 
builds today, all by herself. Most are based on various Bell designs, 
including newer ones than the 212. None were better than an old Bell 
212? This is crazy. Boils down to gross negligence.

Anyway, anything to distract the pilots for a few seconds inside fog was 
all that was needed.

Back to this entry. The huge oil deal is gone. To Saudis. But today I 
found that the Chabahar deal is continuing in full force, so not all is 
lost. Plus yet another American backed terrorist attempt in that area 
two days back to sabotage it was made (and foiled successfully). That 
project is alive! Hence this entry :)