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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Two dozen people were simply wrong -- Only basis for rebuttal in the last 3 years Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2024 17:58:19 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <v3fges$2rlrn$1@dont-email.me> References: <v3501h$lpnh$1@dont-email.me> <v362eu$2d367$3@i2pn2.org> <v363js$vg63$2@dont-email.me> <v36803$2d368$3@i2pn2.org> <v368je$100kd$3@dont-email.me> <v373mr$2d367$5@i2pn2.org> <v37bpa$15n0b$1@dont-email.me> <v37i9p$lls$1@news.muc.de> <87y17smqnq.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <v37sap$18mfo$1@dont-email.me> <v3elpv$2mjca$1@dont-email.me> <v3fdif$2r6gg$1@dont-email.me> <v3fe4u$2r8b7$1@dont-email.me> <v3ffk9$2rh8f$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2024 17:58:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7400557857026e3b66e59a6887e93b1d"; logging-data="3004279"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+JlLDChnLCSVS1Veh5eUBk" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:NHkg1d4/KwYNbMlvfq0nrx9ZNVI= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <v3ffk9$2rh8f$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2996 Op 01.jun.2024 om 17:44 schreef olcott: > On 6/1/2024 10:18 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >> Op 01.jun.2024 om 17:09 schreef olcott: >>> On 6/1/2024 3:23 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2024-05-29 18:31:52 +0000, olcott said: >>>> >>>>> *two dozen people were simply wrong* >>>> >>>> Why are people who are wrong so important that they deserve >>>> a subject line? I would think that people who are right are >>>> more interesting. >>>> >>> >>> This is the key mistake of the definition of the halting problem itself. >>> Linz makes this same mistake. I already covered this extensively in >>> another reply. >>> >>> That these two dozen different people are wrong about this shows that >>> the only basis for any rebuttal of my proof for the last three years IS >>> WRONG. >>> >>> Because DD correctly simulated by HH remains stuck in recursive >>> simulation for 1 to ∞ steps of correct simulation this conclusively >>> proves that H is correct to reject DD as non-halting no matter what the >>> behavior of the directly executed DD(DD) is. >>> >> >> Similarly: >> >> Because HH correctly simulated by HH remains stuck in recursive >> simulation for 1 to ∞ steps of correct simulation this conclusively >> proves that it is correct to reject HH as non-halting no matter what the >> behavior of the directly executed HH(DD,DD) is. > > I am going to simply ignore your disingenuous replies. > HH(DD,DD) halts as an empirical fact. > Just like DD halts as an empirical fact.