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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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Subject: Re: GUILTY. All 34 counts.
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2024 21:09:56 -0000 (UTC)
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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>May 31, 2024 at 7:43:16 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>Sat, 1 Jun 2024 10:54:32 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>On 2024-05-31 10:46:00 +0000, FPP said:
>>>>>On 5/31/24 4:48 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>On 5/30/24 4:17 PM, FPP wrote:

>>>>>>>GUILTY. All 34 counts.

>>>>>>I called it. Let the whining begin!

>>>>>Yup... I was shooting for Friday.  Really surprised, since a half hour 
>>>>>before, the judge was shutting it down for the day.

>>>>Trump the Chump's whining startedd immediately and his braindead 
>>>>supports declared "war" not long after.

>>>>Not that this decision means anything in reality. The whole mess will 
>>>>drag on for years longer yet with numerous appeals, counter-appeals, 
>>>>etc. Trump the Chump and most of the witnesses will be dead of old age 
>>>>before it ends, and even then you'll probably have their kids trying to 
>>>>clear their names one way or another.

>>>Not that long but yes, it will likely go on for a couple of years.
>>>There are two level of appeals at the NY state level and then Trump
>>>can try to jump to the US Supreme Court if both levels of appeal fail
>>>to overturn the verdict. 

>>There's no direct appeal from state court to federal court. They have to
>>find a federal issue to dispute.

>There is a federal issue. The predicate crime that the state used to
>bootstrap the state charges despite it being beyond the statute of
>limitations was a federal crime, and one that both the DOJ and the FEC
>had already looked at and determined there was no violation. So the
>question of whether the entire basis of the state's case was valid is
>a federal question.

I am certainly not going to agree that the feds ever made a finding of no
violation. Prosecutors never say that out loud, anyway, when there are no
charges preferred against the target of the investigation. The FEC isn't
doing its job if every entity those funds passed through didn't receive
a letter in which they found campaign disclosure violations. Fines should
have been issued.

Do we know why prosecution was limited to Michael Cohen?

Say, was Stormy Daniels herself obligated to make disclosure?

I don't see how the issue is moot because the underlying crime can no
longer be charged.

Trump's complaints that Biden is behind the conspiracy are equal
protection but I doubt there's an actual equal protection argument to
make. Mark Levin's tweet, that I referenced elsewhere, had several due
process arguments to make.

But the issue of the state law itself cannot be contested in federal
court.

Can you please explain how the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction
in the case of apply for writs for equitable relief and why everyone
doesn't have to apply for the writ at district court level?

I have never understood this.