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bad💽sector wrote on Thu, 30 May 2024 21:42:00 -0400 :

>> The main message I wanted to communicate is that people believe in myths
>> that have no basis in fact when you bother to doublecheck the facts.
> 
> There's a dividing line you seem to be confused about, the one between 
> science and belief, the two equally are important realms that are by 
> definition mutually exclusive of one another. The latter tries to 
> process issues that the former is incapable of resolving. To think that 
> all that is is what we 'know' in the folly of many. I once read a 
> perfect example of this when an astronomer (of all people!) said "we 
> cannot find dark matter so it does not exist".

You touch on a point that I've always tried to figure out why people come 
up with religious beliefs about anything (e.g., Apple phones), where that 
belief system is always two things, it seems, which is the crime here.

1. The belief is fed to the people (by someone with something to gain)
2. The belief is wrong

Take the iPhone, for example:
a. Apple feeds iPhone owners all sorts of false messaging, right?
b. And Apple benefits greatly by feeding Apple owners these myths

Same here with cellphones.
a. The government benefits with the increased revenue from ticketing
b. And the government feeds people that it's "doing something" for safety.

And yet, as with Apple, the only benefit is to their bottom line.
Even as most people never question those two myths, right?

Back to your point, religion was the first "science" that explained 
everything, such that you could ask any question you wanted to ask about 
why things happen and the answer was that "god" did it, that's why.

While Apple and the government benefit greatly in earning revenue from 
spewing these lies, I don't gain any monetary gain by informing you of the 
truth.

As for dark matter, it's a conundrum for sure. The galaxies are spinning at 
far too great a speed at the outer edges, but it could be almost anything 
(and yes, I'm aware of most of the theories to explain the discord).

It could be our equations are simply wrong on the grand scale of things.

Or, it could be matter in another dimension (orthogonal to our three, or 
perhaps in the fourth time dimension, which already is orthogonal) is 
influencing us. By way of background, if you know electrical engineering 
(or math), the square root of minus 1 is either "i" or "j" depending on 
whether you're an engineer or a mathematician, but it shows up in 
electromagnetic wave equations due to the fact that time is 90 degrees 
orthogonal to the three spatial dimensions.

Note that hypothesis is interesting which has an analogy that an ant in 
flatland can't see you above it but if you stand over it, your shadow can 
be seen by that ant in flatland. Your shadow influences what the ant can 
see but the ant can't explain where the shadow came from since it can't 
measure any massive object causing that shadow.
a. There's a shadow
b. But where is the mass that caused that shadow?
c. That mass is in a dimension orthogonal to what the ant can measure.

By the way, another non-intuitive interesting situation is that we all move 
at the speed of light, but most people don't understand that sentence 
because most of that movement is in the dimension of time - and yet - 
everything moves at the same speed - but in the four dimensions - so it 
only appears that some things are moving at speeds slower than the speed of 
light - but if we were massless we'd be moving ONLY at the speed of light 
in the spatial dimensions - which means we don't move through time at all.

That's really why time slows down as we approach the speed of light in the 
spatial dimensions since everything moves at the speed of light.

Just as the fact that gravity isn't a force, most people can't fathom a 
discussion at this adult level - since they're uneducated & ignorant of 
such things. Worse, most have an IQ that can't handle this process. 

Sigh.