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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Two dozen people were simply wrong --- Try to prove otherwise --- pinned down Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 09:18:35 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <v3hddb$2psm0$1@i2pn2.org> References: <v3501h$lpnh$1@dont-email.me> <v39agi$1jiql$1@dont-email.me> <v39v3h$1mtd9$5@dont-email.me> <v3b9kj$2im02$1@i2pn2.org> <v3bale$222n5$1@dont-email.me> <v3bbs2$2im01$1@i2pn2.org> <v3bcre$22a8n$1@dont-email.me> <v3bduk$2im01$2@i2pn2.org> <v3bedb$22f8h$1@dont-email.me> <v3bfbm$2im01$3@i2pn2.org> <v3bg39$22o6m$1@dont-email.me> <v3cbhu$2k3ld$1@i2pn2.org> <v3clo2$28p7n$1@dont-email.me> <v3dft1$2lfup$1@i2pn2.org> <v3dhob$2dio8$1@dont-email.me> <v3dk0d$2lfup$2@i2pn2.org> <v3dkf2$2e2po$1@dont-email.me> <v3dmnc$2lfup$3@i2pn2.org> <v3do66$2ejq2$1@dont-email.me> <v3dqka$2lfup$4@i2pn2.org> <v3dsev$2f6ul$1@dont-email.me> <v3dtt4$2lfup$5@i2pn2.org> <v3dvr3$2jgjd$1@dont-email.me> <v3e0rj$2lfup$6@i2pn2.org> <v3e1m6$2jmc2$1@dont-email.me> <v3f09p$2n53o$1@i2pn2.org> <v3feqn$2rdp3$1@dont-email.me> <v3fgat$2n53n$5@i2pn2.org> <v3fhan$2rsbs$1@dont-email.me> <v3fhmr$2ro2o$2@dont-email.me> <v3fhv0$2rsbs$4@dont-email.me> <v3fpun$2t8n0$1@dont-email.me> <v3fq64$2teib$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 09:18:35 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2945728"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2955 Lines: 32 Am Sat, 01 Jun 2024 13:44:21 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 6/1/2024 1:40 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >> Op 01.jun.2024 om 18:24 schreef olcott: >>> On 6/1/2024 11:19 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>> Op 01.jun.2024 om 18:13 schreef olcott: >>>>> On 6/1/2024 10:56 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 6/1/24 11:30 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> >>> >>> HH correctly reports that because DD calls HH(DD,DD) in recursive >>> simulation that DD never halts. >>> >>> HHH(HH,DD,DD) would report that HH halts. >>> >>> >> Maybe. And H1 (DD,DD) would report that DD halts. >> >> In the recursive simulation by HH, neither the simulation of DD, nor >> the simulation of HH halts. If one of them would halt, the other one >> would halt as well. >> >> So HH 'correctly' reports that both DD and HH do not halt, because they >> both keep starting an instance of each other. > In case you didn't know pure functions must halt because they must > return a value. That means it terminates/returns, right? Then H is either not „pure”, or execution proceeds past line 4. -- joes