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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Two dozen people were simply right --- Try to prove otherwise --- pinned down Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 09:46:55 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <v3hf2e$2psm0$4@i2pn2.org> References: <v3501h$lpnh$1@dont-email.me> <v37bpa$15n0b$1@dont-email.me> <v37i9p$lls$1@news.muc.de> <87y17smqnq.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <v37sap$18mfo$1@dont-email.me> <v38eq4$2foi0$1@i2pn2.org> <v38fe0$1bndb$1@dont-email.me> <v38g31$2foi0$11@i2pn2.org> <v38gi5$1bndb$3@dont-email.me> <v38ici$2fohv$2@i2pn2.org> <v38j17$1c8ir$2@dont-email.me> <v38jgo$2foi0$14@i2pn2.org> <v38jv9$1c8ir$4@dont-email.me> <v39agi$1jiql$1@dont-email.me> <v39v3h$1mtd9$5@dont-email.me> <v3b9kj$2im02$1@i2pn2.org> <v3bale$222n5$1@dont-email.me> <v3bbs2$2im01$1@i2pn2.org> <v3bcre$22a8n$1@dont-email.me> <v3bduk$2im01$2@i2pn2.org> <v3bedb$22f8h$1@dont-email.me> <v3bfbm$2im01$3@i2pn2.org> <v3bg39$22o6m$1@dont-email.me> <v3cbhu$2k3ld$1@i2pn2.org> <v3clo2$28p7n$1@dont-email.me> <v3dft1$2lfup$1@i2pn2.org> <v3dhob$2dio8$1@dont-email.me> <v3dk0d$2lfup$2@i2pn2.org> <v3dkf2$2e2po$1@dont-email.me> <v3dmnc$2lfup$3@i2pn2.org> <v3do66$2ejq2$1@dont-email.me> <v3fq16$2o13h$6@i2pn2.org> <v3fq8q$2teib$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 09:46:55 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2945728"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3379 Lines: 36 Am Sat, 01 Jun 2024 13:45:47 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 6/1/2024 1:41 PM, joes wrote: >> Am Fri, 31 May 2024 18:57:57 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>> On 5/31/2024 6:33 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 5/31/24 6:54 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 5/31/2024 5:46 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 5/31/24 6:08 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/31/2024 4:36 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/31/24 10:10 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 5/31/2024 6:16 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/24 11:27 PM, olcott wrote: >>> >>> *If DD correctly simulated by HH can't possibly reach its own* >>> *final state then DD correctly simulated by HH is non-halting* >> Which makes HH not terminate either, or incorrectly abort. >> > I will not respond to any of your replies while you continue to play > head games. What do you mean? As a simulator, H can’t halt if its input D doesn’t. > *Changing the subject away from this is construed as a head game* DD > correctly simulated by pure function HH cannot possibly reach past its > own line 03 in any finite number of steps of correct simulation. Then H is not pure. > In case you didn't know pure functions must halt because they must > return a value. H is such a function. Where does it return? >>> *When we get as specific as the actual x86 machine code of* *DD then >>> all liars are exposed* >> The machine code doesn't matter. Did you know that implementations can >> be wrong, i.e. not meet their spec? Which your machine code is buggy. -- joes