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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Two dozen people were simply wrong --- Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 09:58:13 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <v3i1a5$3cpu7$7@dont-email.me> References: <v3501h$lpnh$1@dont-email.me> <v3b9kj$2im02$1@i2pn2.org> <v3bale$222n5$1@dont-email.me> <v3bbs2$2im01$1@i2pn2.org> <v3bcre$22a8n$1@dont-email.me> <v3bduk$2im01$2@i2pn2.org> <v3bedb$22f8h$1@dont-email.me> <v3bfbm$2im01$3@i2pn2.org> <v3bg39$22o6m$1@dont-email.me> <v3cbhu$2k3ld$1@i2pn2.org> <v3clo2$28p7n$1@dont-email.me> <v3dft1$2lfup$1@i2pn2.org> <v3dhob$2dio8$1@dont-email.me> <v3dk0d$2lfup$2@i2pn2.org> <v3dkf2$2e2po$1@dont-email.me> <v3dmnc$2lfup$3@i2pn2.org> <v3do66$2ejq2$1@dont-email.me> <MPG.40c4fbcb474992459896fd@reader.eternal-september.org> <v3f9ha$2qh0t$1@dont-email.me> <v3ffpc$2n53n$3@i2pn2.org> <v3fgfb$2riae$2@dont-email.me> <v3fh1a$2n53o$5@i2pn2.org> <v3fhkr$2rsbs$2@dont-email.me> <v3fig4$2n53n$6@i2pn2.org> <v3fj8h$2rsbs$6@dont-email.me> <v3g0bg$2n53n$18@i2pn2.org> <v3g0n2$2v3lp$2@dont-email.me> <v3g329$2n53n$21@i2pn2.org> <v3g3np$2vk55$1@dont-email.me> <v3g7e9$2n53n$22@i2pn2.org> <v3g7r8$30c96$1@dont-email.me> <v3heeh$2psm0$3@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2024 16:58:13 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3e1a2626012d6c432c11247ed1bf0353"; logging-data="3565511"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19slj79CObXuAxhwZwN/39o" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:nwTWTrGBfi6XUqlCu3ndoMk5heo= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v3heeh$2psm0$3@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3548 On 6/2/2024 4:36 AM, joes wrote: > Am Sat, 01 Jun 2024 17:37:28 -0500 schrieb olcott: > >> On 6/1/2024 5:30 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/1/24 5:27 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 6/1/2024 4:15 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 6/1/24 4:35 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 6/1/2024 3:29 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/1/24 12:46 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/1/2024 11:33 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 6/1/24 12:18 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 6/1/2024 11:08 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/1/24 11:58 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/1/2024 10:46 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/1/24 10:00 AM, olcott wrote: > >>>> Every DD correctly simulated by any HH of the infinite set of HH/DD >>>> pairs that match the above template never reaches past its own >>>> simulated line 03 in 1 to ∞ steps of correct simulation of DD by HH. >>> >>> But since the simulation was aborted, >> >> *The above never mentions anything about any simulation being aborted* > Not simulating an infinite number of steps of infinite recursion is > incorrect. You always forget this requirement: the simulation must be > complete. When every possible simulation where DD is correctly simulated by HH never reaches past its own simulated line 03 then we know for sure that No DD correctly simulated by HH ever halts. > What are the sets of HH and DD? I thought they were concrete machines. > -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer