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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 18:01:39 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <v3l0e3$d1c$1@dont-email.me> References: <v3deub$6q7i$1@novabbs.org> <f61f728d-c38a-6ff5-0b0f-ce3d8d411233@invalid.nospam> <lc0locF5k8nU2@mid.individual.net> <c4fdbd1a-34ce-785b-c30a-c18746e1e279@invalid.nospam> <v3fdm5$9sc5$1@novabbs.org> <59dc7029-32ce-5ecd-95bc-176055dc97cf@invalid.nospam> <lc17epF5jpkU1@mid.individual.net> <86jzj8o4o6.fsf@example.com> <v3gagu$30seo$1@dont-email.me> <v3h0ed$37qte$1@dont-email.me> <d5120722-741d-aa61-a5af-c1dc0d35e0b5@invalid.nospam> <v3ic06$3f8rs$1@dont-email.me> <v3igm8$3fu9r$2@dont-email.me> <v3igtl$3g2kk$1@dont-email.me> <8244f8c9-e597-d8c9-704b-1ceb33ec03e4@invalid.nospam> <v3jaid$3nnt6$1@dont-email.me> <v3jqmq$3pvuj$1@dont-email.me> <lc5a04Fq7bbU3@mid.individual.net> <v3k2ig$ppd$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <lc5hm4FriuvU4@mid.individual.net> <v3k8af$2eaj$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v3klc6$3ufjg$1@dont-email.me> <lc66k7Fg23U2@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2024 20:01:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ca2dd99451fb143b5281ecf8f9b0717c"; logging-data="13356"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19uy3Wr84btLkzjZ0InkapPT1oQmeAdcFM=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2KqfkyzX7U+UjLUGI+VglddGC7E= sha1:hDNsSMSt8/iSoc3FZ10cvIG8kog= Bytes: 3677 Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote: > Chris, 2024-06-03 16:52: > >> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote: >>> Andy Burns wrote on Mon, 3 Jun 2024 10:45:39 +0100 : >>> >>>>> My point only is that this doesn't portend an ability to turn off bluetooth >>>>> in later releases because Google & Apple make too much $ off tracking us. >>>> >>>> But do they really make money from knowing where I am? >>> >>> I appreciate that you're asking good questions, where I think in this very >>> thread we saw an article that Mayayana cited that says yes. >>> >>> Apple & Google make money off of keeping track of our location. >> >> Is this another of your unsubstantiated claims? > > No, it is called "location based service". This was already a business > model way before smartphones existed. In the past phone companies sold > location based services based on triangulation of the base stations > connected to the phone. > > BTDT - I have written software using this to locate the next available > pharmacy with emergency services in Germany when a user requests this by > either sending an SMS to a specific number and he will then get the list > of pharmacies as response or by using a WAP browser and visiting a > specific WAP site which offers this as a service. > > Of course the phone company asked for money for every location request. > And this had to be paid by the company providing that pharmacy location > service and not by the users. > > Nowadays location based services are of course more often used to > distribute advertisements or to determine good locations to open the > next fast food restaurant etc.. Which are reasonable and acceptable use cases. "Andrew "is insinuating more nefarious data capture.