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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.movies Subject: Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 16:37:20 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <v3l9i0$1n8m$1@dont-email.me> References: <20240601a@crcomp.net> <v3fvv4$2v16p$1@dont-email.me> <20240601b@crcomp.net> <v3jad3$3nmv2$1@dont-email.me> <20240602a@crcomp.net> <ldnr5jdqsi9ir9q4eg05tnem4td5kho4s7@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2024 22:37:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="646baddb7f7b191c9dcf7a581db5e037"; logging-data="56598"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX191IincdRP8X7pZMPah5WttSmJCmDHb3vI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:wnsxtzNcMsPb/Bpo7+egQFHMBnk= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <ldnr5jdqsi9ir9q4eg05tnem4td5kho4s7@4ax.com> Bytes: 2888 On 6/3/2024 11:18 AM, Paul S Person wrote: > On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 04:38:14 -0000 (UTC), Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote: > >> Petertrei wrote: >> <snip> > > <snip much more> > >> Cookie's apron is cringe-worthy. But sometimes you must pander to >> readers. In this case to readers who, at best, recognize only one >> symbol: the apron. > > And a cook wearing an apron is so totally unheard that it /must/ be a > symbol of something, right? No cook in all of recorded history ever > wore an apron unless it was symbolic? > > Given their origin (historical or mythological, doesn't matter), I > would say that a bricklayers' apron and a cook's apron are similar but > nonetheless distinct. Operative Mason's aprons are quite large, and made of heavy leather or cloth. Early Freemason's aprons were similar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Times_of_the_Day#/media/File:Four_Times_of_the_Day_-_Night_-_Hogarth.jpg Modern operative mason's aprons are still like that: https://dungarees.com/carhartt-103439-apron?&cs=BRN&size=OFA&cid=1161 The modern speculative Mason's intiatory apron is made of white lambskin, and much squarer. In American lodges, most sideliners will be wearing a cloth apron from the lodge stock. https://dallasmasons.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/1-10.jpg The young man with the glasses in the front row is wearing a lambskin apron, and the man to the right of him is wearing a stock apron. The more fancy ones with blue embroidery are officers. Cookie's apron isn't all that far from that, but is too large, and lacking a flap. Still, Occam's Razor suggests he's wearing it for cooking related reasons. pt