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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: The error of the halting problem Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 15:53:01 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <v3lafd$1uml$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2024 22:53:01 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f629d257ac302b24ac32e99a4ff4b1b3"; logging-data="64213"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18sC3dVXnUQVGab9W2DR7UE" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:lRsy9X8xvLWCo7WShzjcrlahN4E= Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2252 For any program H that might determine whether programs halt, a "pathological" program D, called with some input, can pass its own source and its input to H and then specifically do the opposite of what H predicts D will do. No H can exist that handles this case. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem The way that the halting problem is conventionally understood is that H must correctly answer yes or no to an input that contradicts both answers, thus H is being asked a question isomorphic to the Liar Paradox: Is this sentence true or false: "This sentence is not true." ? *Two PhD computer science professors agree with this assessment* E C R Hehner. Problems with the Halting Problem, COMPUTING2011 Symposium on 75 years of Turing Machine and Lambda-Calculus, Karlsruhe Germany, invited, 2011 October 20-21; Advances in Computer Science and Engineering v.10 n.1 p.31-60, 2013 https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~hehner/PHP.pdf Bill Stoddart. The Halting Paradox 20 December 2017 https://arxiv.org/abs/1906.05340 arXiv:1906.05340 [cs.LO] E C R Hehner. Objective and Subjective Specifications WST Workshop on Termination, Oxford. 2018 July 18. See https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~hehner/OSS.pdf -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer