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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 01:26:20 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 17 Message-ID: <v3lqfs$48om$3@dont-email.me> References: <v0s17o$2okf4$2@dont-email.me> <v38opv$1gsj2$3@dont-email.me> <v38riq$1aqo$1@gal.iecc.com> <niki5jps7jn2qfkj0t3s2t82qmrjoc97pi@4ax.com> <v3d9bh$s9a$2@gal.iecc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 03:26:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d7d916175bb629e2353c22c0a9deb72e"; logging-data="140054"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/QbyoE924gl4VEIrt/3nqG" User-Agent: Pan/0.158 (Avdiivka; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:eAZyeDI+XrI07shu9821+zwQpOo= Bytes: 2069 On Fri, 31 May 2024 19:44:49 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote: > Back in the last millenium there were a bunch of companies that made > clones of IBM mainframes. They all failed. They didn’t “fail” as such. Companies like Amdahl and Wang were able to maintain profitable businesses for quite a few years, decades even. And then there were other entirely separate companies, like CDC where Seymour Cray invented the concept of the “supercomputer”, much to the surprise of his upper management who just wanted to sell “business” machines. All the mainframe companies apart from IBM eventually went out of business because the whole mainframe concept is obsolete. The only reason IBM is still going is because it was able to muster more marketing clout than all its competitors put together. But even that part of its business is in decline. The only part of the company currently making money would be its Red Hat acquisition. The rest will eventually wither away.