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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
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Subject: Re: The error of the halting problem
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 22:47:35 -0400
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On 6/3/24 10:32 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 6/3/2024 9:26 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 6/3/24 10:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 6/3/2024 8:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 6/3/24 9:51 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> When H is asked a yes/no question where both answers are
>>>>> contradicted by its input *IT IS A FREAKING RIGGED GAME*
>>>>
>>>> But both answers aren't wrong. Remember, the question is built to 
>>>> make a SPECIFIC decider wrong, and by its algorithm, it will give a 
>>>> SPECIFIC answer to each SPECIFIC question.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can't get away with that head game by pretending
>>> to not understand what infinite an set of H/D pairs is.
>>
>> But it doesn't matter.
>>
> 
> It matters enormously. Once we fully understand that the limits
> of computation were always a ruse then we can give computation
> the priority that it truly deserves. It might be the life on earth
> is killed off because we did not build a semantic lie detector
> quickly enough.

But you are working on it wrong, because you just don't understand the 
actual nature of truth.

There ARE limits to Computation, and to the ability to logically prove 
something, because the available complexity grows faster than the power 
to solve.

We CAN built a "Lie Detector" that can detect MOST lies (or most of the 
important lies), just not ALL.

You are letting the desire to be PERFECT (which you can't be) get in the 
way of being GOOD ENOUGH.

And you don't understand the human nature (because you have fallen for 
it too) that just because we can prove something, doesn't mean people 
will believe it.

YOU are the perfect example. It has been proven MANY TIMES that you are 
wrong, but, just like the election denies, you just refuse to look at 
the evidence.

By claiming the rules don't matter, then nothing is actually true, so in 
one sense, your arguments are just dooming your goal.

> 
>> The key is that EVERY element of that infinite set gives the wrong 
>> answer for its particular input, or it doesn't answer (which is also a 
>> "wrong answer").
>>
> 
> Only because of the Liar Paradox ruse.
> 

Nope.

You just don't seem to be able to understand, I guess you are just too 
Stupid.

There IS a correct answer to the question posed to H, H just doesn't 
give it.