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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: ALTER, ASSIGN and labels-as-values Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 11:19:38 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <v3mm7a$c63k$2@dont-email.me> References: <v1ns43$2260p$1@dont-email.me> <v33250$89l2$1@dont-email.me> <vaka5jpbad271mal8vtj7hb04mhvgsmlc5@4ax.com> <v33l8i$envo$1@dont-email.me> <v34t59$1on4$1@gal.iecc.com> <v3528c$mcei$1@dont-email.me> <0uo5O.16554$Qgge.15708@fx12.iad> <v354ib$mprj$1@dont-email.me> <v3573k$n821$1@dont-email.me> <v357nq$nblg$1@dont-email.me> <v39cjq$1jtgk$2@dont-email.me> <v3jttf$3qduu$7@dont-email.me> <Cak7O.8603$7jpd.3608@fx47.iad> <v3lr5s$48om$6@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 11:19:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e45d74333c127ce2b4dec02c1d921f24"; logging-data="399476"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18lo1uwUFQQSliWlKGculmuEKJ4lmVIKY9juoChZrdiYg==" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:QoHvIl2kjnCeI54J0rxiG3WxyJs= In-Reply-To: <v3lr5s$48om$6@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2747 Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 14:11:46 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >> >>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 10:15:54 +0200, Terje Mathisen wrote: >>> >>>> This was using hand-punched cards, writing FORTRAN 2 code with the >>>> Hollerith text constants so you had to count very carefully: >>>> >>>> FORMAT 27HTHIS IS A VERY LONG TEXT STRING... >>> >>> Hey, did you not notice the columns were numbered? So all you had to do >>> to determine the length of the string was subtract column numbers? >> >> Aside the fact that you needed to know the length _before_ you punched >> the rest of the "very long text string" on the card? Or are you >> suggesting that coding forms (which were used for third party punching) >> were a prerequisite for punching program cards? > > Of course people used coding forms. Do you insist on not reading what we write? I hadn't even heard of coding forms until now, almost 47 years later. Yes, they would have made sense back then but what I had was notebooks with a raster (5mm step?) background. Terje -- - <Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no> "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"