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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: A couple of problems with EV charging roads?
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 01:36:08 +1000
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On 4/06/2024 11:41 pm, john larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 01:35:13 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/2/2024 1:51 PM, john larkin wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 12:32:25 -0500, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
>>> wrote:

<snip>

>> Some African countries seem to be leap-frogging over 20th century
>> infrastructure concepts entirely - work using videoconferencing when
>> possible, use WiMax and satellite for internet instead of maintaining
>> cable and fiber optic, do last-mile shipping via drone delivery, and
>> generate power on-site with micro grids rather than run high tension lines.
> 
> Maybe that's why they are so healthy and have such low unemployment
> rates and such huge GDPs. Some African citizens even have electricity
> and running water.

Nobody is arguing that that they offer a better environment than the US 
does now. The argument is that they don't have to get to US - or even 
better - European standards of living by going through the same 
intermediate stages as we did.

>> I never understood the right-wing refrain that "everybody wants to come
>> here" (the US) when it's pretty clear to me that what the majority of
>> people around the world generally prefer to do is stay home where they
>> were raised with the people and culture they're familiar with, if at all
>> feasible. Infrastructure is expensive, commuting can be depressing, and
>> most people don't like to travel very much in the first place unless
>> they're on vacation.
> 
> Google says
> 
> Immigrants and their U.S.-born children number approximately 90.8
> million people, or 27 percent of the total civilian
> noninstitutionalized U.S. population in 2023. This is an increase of
> approximately 14.7 million (or 20 percent) from 2010.

The US does like hiring cheap workers from overseas. They haven't had to 
feed or house them while they were growing up, or educate them.

Australia exploits immigrants in just the same way, but does better at 
getting them paid them same wages as native-born citizens. Trade unions 
can be good at that.

> Some large fraction of my employees are foreign-born and seem to like
> it here. You don't seem to like it here.

The US is a better place to live than quite a lot of countries. It now 
doesn't compare well with Australian and the northern European countries 
- it was more attractive when I was younger, but the median standard of 
living has stagnated for the last thirty or forty years. The average 
might have gone up, but so has inequality, so the median hasn't.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney




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