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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 22:21:50 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 54 Message-ID: <v3olkf$q9du$1@dont-email.me> References: <v3o2dj$jm9q$1@dont-email.me> <v3og6b$328ec$10@i2pn2.org> <v3ogh9$pi6u$1@dont-email.me> <v3oi5t$328ec$13@i2pn2.org> <v3oifv$psat$1@dont-email.me> <v3ojg2$328eb$1@i2pn2.org> <v3ok3p$q2fh$1@dont-email.me> <v3ol8s$328ec$14@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2024 05:21:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dbcb5a2e000d59c1dda264f94a647a93"; logging-data="861630"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/UlOJuJFJkYWZCOPurXFQK" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:J8s2kdH6nC9vFnFnHIMzj1u/u00= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v3ol8s$328ec$14@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3230 On 6/4/2024 10:15 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/4/24 10:55 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/4/2024 9:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/4/24 10:28 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 6/4/2024 9:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 6/4/24 9:54 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 6/4/2024 8:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/4/24 5:53 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> https://liarparadox.org/DD_correctly_simulated_by_HH_is_Proven.pdf >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact that >>>>>>>> the above >>>>>>>> link conclusively proves that DD <is> correctly simulated by HH. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It has been just like I smash a Boston cream pie in their face >>>>>>>> and they >>>>>>>> persistently deny that there ever was any pie as this pie drips >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> their face. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The problem iks you use the WRONG DEFINITION of "Simulated >>>>>>> Correctly" to allow the simulation to say anything about the >>>>>>> behavior of the machine being simulated. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *I conclusively proved otherwise in the above link* >>>>> >>>>> You CAN'T provd that a definition is wrong. >>>>> >>>> >>>> *Try and provide a counter-example or implicitly admit that you cannot* >>>> *Try and provide a counter-example or implicitly admit that you cannot* >>>> *Try and provide a counter-example or implicitly admit that you cannot* >>> >>> What are you asking for a counter example of? >>> >> >> The machine description of DD specifies that it does not halt to >> simulating halt decider HH and you already know that you cannot >> possibly prove otherwise. > > No, it specifies that it HALTS, since HH(DD,DD) will return 0. > In other words you have always known that I am correct that DD correctly simulated by HH CANNOT POSSIBLY HALT and yet still try to get away with pure bluster. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer