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From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
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Subject: Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 04:10:52 -0000 (UTC)
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On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 23:56:46 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 13:11:52 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 07:47:49 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One of the main selling points [of zSeries] is the hardware
>>>>> reliability ...
>>>>
>>>>Quite an expensive way to get reliability. How does an outfit like
>>>>Google achieve essentially 0% downtime? By running a swarm of half a
>>>>million commodity servers, that’s how.
>>> 
>>> And that's not expensive?
>>
>>Consider the equivalent number of mainframes, with their inbuilt
>>diagnostics capabilities etc, to match that reliability.
> 
> Tandem and Stratus  did it three decades ago.

At a high cost.