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From: Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
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Subject: Re: Workstation Aesthetics
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Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-06-05 8:07 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 12:23:23 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 06:58:08 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v3mdu0$arho$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 11:11:19 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Point being, the wintrolls knew very little of the pedigree of Unix
>>>>>> workstations until they were schooled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Abso-bloody-lutely.
>>>>
>>>> I've come to the conclusion that the person who asked you for the videos
>>>> was never interested in the aesthetics of the workstation desktops of
>>>> yore -- nor have they acknowledged those desktops' role in shaping the
>>>> look-and-feel of Windows 95.
>>>>
>>>> They seem to be a Windows concern troll having a bit of fun with us...
>>>
>>> Except the joke was on them. Now they seem to be trying desperately to
>>> claim that the Windows desktop of the time looked much better than Unix,
>>> hoping that if they shout it loud enough, that will somehow make it true.
>>>
>>> What they forget is who was in charge of Microsoft at the time: Bill
>>> Gates, whom Steve Jobs famously said had “no taste”.
>>>
>>> Remember, the big advance in Windows 95 was in actually having a “Start”
>>> menu for the first time.
>> 
>> And what good is a pretty desktop if the OS tends to freeze up?
>
> You mean the way Ubuntu regularly does?

I haven't had a desktop/OS freeze up in... years. Gentoo, Debian Unstable,
Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch.

> I guess it's a one-man operation 
> which doesn't have enough testers.

Ask Lenovo about Ubuntu and it's parent, Canonical:

   https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/d/linux-laptops-desktops/?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F

   Linux Laptops

   Shop laptops and desktops computers with Linux preloaded at Lenovo. Choose
   from popular ThinkPad and desktop models. 

> <https://askubuntu.com/questions/1513394/ubuntu-24-04-fresh-install-system-settings-freezes-when-going-system-remot>

   "Ok, apt-get reinstall gnome-remote-desktop seems to have solved it."

> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061840>

An actual bug!

I'm surprised they didn't clue him in to the Linux magic SysRq key.

>> My mail-order Pentium desktop had Win NT (not DOS-Windows) for that reason.
>> 
>> (I did have to dig around to find an NT driver for an HP inkjet printer
>> "Certified for Window" Same for the modem card. :-D).
>> 
>> Later I slicked it and put RedHat 6 on it.
>
> How long after that did your Pentium desktop get up try to strangle you 
> in your sleep?

Heh heh.

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